Patrick Stewart has died

(nytimes.com)

2491 points | by j4mie 7 hours ago

200 comments

  • halflife 6 hours ago
    Watching him in Star Trek TNG made me reevaluate how management of people should be done, his character was assertive but compassionate. High morals coupled with grounded reason.

    I also want to mention his hilarious role as bullock in American dad, the way he takes a role both so seriously and ridiculously makes him so fantastically hilarious.

    I love him and will miss him.

    • stuxnet79 6 hours ago
      Star Trek TNG as a whole was a masterclass on how to effectively manage a high performance team. It's a favorite watch in tech leadership circles for this reason. Every now and then I re-watch this clip of Data taking over the enterprise and the inevitable hiccups he runs into [1].

      Really high quality writing for its time.

      [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlnZKTXKidU

      • WalterBright 6 hours ago
        Keep in mind that Star Trek is a fictional utopia. When writing a script, one can make anything work out well.

        The original Star Trek was Roddenberry's vision of utopia. The benevolent dictator always makes the right decisions. He's surrounded by his loyal band of perfect lieutenants, who apparently have zero desire to advance, and have no flaws at all. Any and all of them are willing to sacrifice themselves for the others. None do anything bad (unless it's a plot device with an explanation that absolves them).

        Don't get me wrong, I've enjoyed watching ST very much. Just keep in mind that that it's a fiction.

        • solyin 5 hours ago
          It's a utopia, which is rare amongst sci-fi futures. Ask about sci-fi and what comes to mind first is almost always some kind of dystopia. Terminator, 1984, Deep Space 9, Star Wars, Battlestar Galactica, Blade Runner, Dune, Tank Girl, Minority Report, iRobot, Westworld, Altwred Carbon. Those aren't worlds that seem like great places to live if you're not rich! So Star Trek is much a work of fiction as the rest of those, but for all its flaws, at least is paints a mostly nice picture of the future that someone might want to live in, not crushed under the heel of a corporation. It makes sense; a story with no conflict isn't interesting, and dystopia provides for conflict. To philosophize, it's why I think we're so afraid of AI and robots and the future. It's why I wrote my book the way I did.
          • AnonymousPlanet 3 hours ago
            > It's a utopia, which is rare amongst sci-fi futures.

            Utopias used to be the most common scifi futures. This is what the so called Cyberpunks (Sterling, Gibson, Cadigan, ...) rebelled against.

            It used to be all about what wonders technology will bring us. By the time of the 70s it became clear that technology doesn't necessarily make everything better, but can be a burden in itself, or even widen the gap between the haves and haves not. And that is what they wrote about. It turned out to be the most popular scifi with audiences deeming it more believable.

            • WalterBright 2 hours ago
              Technology makes a lot of things better. Like eliminating symptoms of 95% of cystic fibrosis victims.

              > even widen the gap between the haves and haves not

              America's poor have a higher standard of living than medieval kings.

              • hyperhello 26 minutes ago
                Medieval poor likely had a higher standard of living than ancient kings, should they have complained?
              • omikun 1 hour ago
                They also work longer hours than medieval serfs, are more precarious in housing and food security and more separated from their family. Also slaves work the farms. Read tomatoland or the lives and deaths of the American workers.
              • smackeyacky 1 hour ago
                That is a silly comparison.
                • N_Lens 52 minutes ago
                  But it gets the masses going!
            • adriand 1 hour ago
              I’m of two minds on utopias. On the one hand it seems we need a positive vision for the future, where technology is used to solve our greatest problems and improve the planet. On the other hand it seems that perhaps technology is incapable of making us happier, because it isn’t clear to me that we are happier now than in past decades, despite having more advanced technology.
              • tourmalinetaco 45 minutes ago
                I believe the more accurate statement is that technology can reduce the burdens of survival (better access to food, medicine, information) but cannot provide longterm happiness, and in some ways impair it (social media, mass surveillance, reliance on technology).

                We are social beings, and technology in the last decade especially has been gearing itself towards reducing communities both physically and digitally. Less people spend time together, more people feel lonely and isolated, and divisions between people are at all time highs with glorification of death to the “enemy”. Forums are almost entirely dead, the feed of information is both nonstop while being useless, and we have few outlets to feel true connection.

                Harvard’s happiness studies finds that standard of living only impacts happiness to a point before facing a sharp plateau and socialization takes over as a dominant factor in longterm happiness, according to my memory at least. And, while I don’t entirely agree with Kojima’s predictions in MGS2, the AI seeking to provide “context” for the feeble human mind as rate of information on the Internet increases was prescient, though humans have adapted to this (albeit suffering shorter attention spans as a consequence).

                IMO a true utopia would be similar to the Enterprise: people socialize and enjoy a life with comfort by technology, not at the behest of social media or the collective consciousness of others. Unplugged and connected in a more meaningful way.

          • phlakaton 4 hours ago
            I would not call Deep Space 9 a dystopia. Nor Babylon 5, for that matter. They are not happy places to live, for sure, but both settings are abundant in hope and possibility.
          • probablyStimmed 3 hours ago
            Tank Girl makes this list? Why not Judge Dredd, or even Idiocracy?
            • Aeolun 2 hours ago
              Idiocracy isn't a dystopia. It's a documentary.
              • dnautics 1 hour ago
                No its not, not in America. Since this decade the highest IQ is on trend to having higher TFR than the lowest, since children are expensive

                https://ifstudies.org/blog/more-babies-for-the-rich-the-rela...

                • naishoya 36 minutes ago
                  Does that study show TFR for the highest net worth, or highest IQ?

                  I think it may be unclear that net worth and high education are a 1:1 proxy for IQ as many of the highest educated and highest earning individuals may be in that situation not because of raw IQ, but due to the other socioeconomic factors which lead to those conditions. Namely being born into high net worth households and being afforded extensive tutoring and supplemental education relative to their poorer peers. I accept the premise that highly educated households do correlate with high net worth, and the study's TFR findings relative to those points are interesting.

                  However, there is still a nonlinear relationship between high IQ and those factors, as well as between high IQ parents' offspring IQ levels. Not a few high net worth individuals choose mates based on factors distinct from having a similar or even a high IQ, if a strong correlation between genetic heritability and IQ is to be believed.

                  The study actually tracked high income with regards to increased TFR in the US and UK, while the correlation to high education was primarily in Sweden. This serves to weaken the connection between IQ and fertility as there are numerous high income situations which are specifically not correlated with high IQ or high education.

                  So, yes, having children is increasingly expensive especially in America, and wealthier people are more prolific. This does not appear, at least to my mind, to have direct bearing on observable trends in general population IQ in the short term, nor does it appear to be addressing future outcomes regarding the Idiocratic potential.

            • solyin 1 hour ago
              Feel free to add your own entries!

              As far as Judge Dredd, my personal beef is that Megacity One's "dystopian" density with 800 million inhabitants from Boston to Washington DC barely ranks in terms of density in today's top 100 cities.

              As far as Idiocracy, I believe that if the networks had played that and it was promoted on YouTube for free the night before the most recent presidential election, it might have gone differently.

              What else would you add to the list?

              • harimau777 32 minutes ago
                If I remember correctly, the crime statistic that they give in one of the movies is also much lower than many US cities.
          • troupo 4 hours ago
            > It's a utopia, which is rare amongst sci-fi futures.

            Some say it was the last sci-fi utopia in modern pop culture.

            • bigmattystyles 4 hours ago
              Is it a utopia? On earth and in the federation they make it seem so, at least post-scarcity but at the edges of the federation you have Romulans, the Borg, Cardassians. Multiple main characters undergo torture, etc... It would make an interesting TV show / spin off where people are shuffling / politicking for power in a post-scarcity world.
              • dd8601fn 3 hours ago
                The utopian bits were never really explained, either.

                They mostly just said it was all great and fair and nobody needs money and is somehow trying to be their best selves… nevermind the numerous examples to the contrary.

                They weren’t really post scarcity. They never explained how they’re not in a constant state of rioting when a weird government/military decides what everyone can have or do.

                You just go with it, because that’s the backdrop. You have to suspend disbelief and just enjoy the story.

                But also, Picard is the best Captain, by far.

                • pzxc 2 hours ago
                  > They weren’t really post scarcity. They never explained how they’re not in a constant state of rioting when a weird government/military decides what everyone can have or do.

                  Well, post-scarcity really just means that ordinary citizens have free access to replicators (matter-energy converters).

                  So the closest example (and the only one I can think of where you see civilian Earth, outside of SF Academy / SF HQ or a time travel episode), is probably the double episode in DS9 where the changelings reach earth and there's a false flag event by a corrupt Admiral that causes a momentary power outage and a planetwide lockdown for a few days. I believe it's meant as a 9/11 allegory -- the homeland is attacked and suddenly everyone WANTS a police state, or at least is willing to go along with it, and only the courageous honorable military officers are there to stop the corrupt ones, all the civilians are frightened into compliance.

                  But post-scarcity? That just means when the security officers aren't around, people can wander into Joseph Sisko's restaurant and eat as much as they want for free, and Joseph Sisko can run his restaurant with as much food supply/ingredients and kitchen equipment as he wants for free, and every gets as much clothing as they want for free, etc. When Earth isn't on lockdown, that's the implication, everyone has as much material goods as they want for free, that's post-scarcity and the implication is they have it.

                  Post-scarcity doesn't mean infinite resources, or that you can have whatever you want, not everyone gets free land/space on which to build their home, for example. If that's your definition of post-scarcity then I guess at least the Q Continuum has it! :)

                  • christofosho 28 minutes ago
                    The episode was years before 9/11
                • rbanffy 3 hours ago
                  > The utopian bits were never really explained, either.

                  What would the effects of growing up in a post-scarcity utopian society be on a human? To never fear poverty or hunger? To be sure that no matter what they do (or don’t) they will be housed and cared for as long as they live?

                  I assume the people in Starfleet would be the ones who are most inclined to work for their betterment, with no fear of competition, with the drive to do The Right Thing. Outside the organisation there would be people who would be totally happy in doing nothing.

                  • solyin 2 hours ago
                    We can look at publicly documented trust fund kids or other (financial) elites and their behavior to get an idea and it runs the spectrum. Princess Diana. Prince Andrew. Paris Hilton, both when she was in the news every day and the quieter stories that have surfaced since. 50 Cent's talked about his child preferring to have money that he didn't have to work for.

                    It's not the same since they exist in a world where most other people aren't at that level, but we can see that the human psyche isn't always able to manage it.

                • ddalcino 2 hours ago
                  I'm pretty sure I remember a few episodes that explained that by this point, humanity had evolved past character flaws like avarice. Star Trek's Earth was a utopia because of qualities in the people that lived in it, not lack of scarcity. The subject came up because the crew was interacting with alien species that was not as evolved, and therefore was not living in a utopia.
                • rcxdude 1 hour ago
                  >The utopian bits were never really explained, either.

                  It's worth remembering that social organization (currency, capitalism, democracy) is a technology as well, and we should not expect that a sci-fi author can explain the advances in that technology any better than they can explain a warp drive. (one nod to this I think is telling is one scene in the movie where they travel back in time and Kirk is telling the others 'they still use money' in much the same way that he would say 'they still use guns'. They have replaced guns with phasers and replaced money with something else and Roddenberry can give us the blueprint for neither).

                  I think it's a sign of the times that people are kind of forgetful that this is an area in which we could advance - either insisting the status quo is somehow the best possible or even completely god-given natural or insisting that the answer is really obvious and doesn't require deep thought, research, and experimentation.

                  • AnthonyMouse 48 minutes ago
                    > I think it's a sign of the times that people are kind of forgetful that this is an area in which we could advance - either insisting the status quo is somehow the best possible or even completely god-given natural or insisting that the answer is really obvious and doesn't require deep thought, research, and experimentation.

                    It feels like the actual problem is that the status quo is so entrenched, people have a hard time imagining how to unseat it.

                    Consider the last few successful Presidential election campaigns. Hope and Change. Drain the Swamp. Biden's uninspired but ultimately successful strategy of running against the incumbent rather than for anything in particular. People keep voting for "we don't like what's currently happening" and the system keeps running them over.

                    Or maybe the problem is actually this:

                    > require deep thought, research, and experimentation

                    These are the things that the status quo robustly impedes.

                    Tweet firehose social media feeds and fragmented leadership.

                    Research funded by the entity under study or the politicians interested in manufacturing support for a predetermined policy rather than trying to find out something we don't already know.

                    Federal laws or even corporate-bought international treaties preventing local governments or private citizens from trying something new because the something new might solve a problem someone doesn't want anybody solving.

                    You're tasked with changing the system while operating under the system that evolved to perpetuate itself.

                    Which isn't to say that it can't be done, but it's easy to see why people are nonplussed.

                • bigmattystyles 3 hours ago
                  Picard is the best by a mile, which is great praise because I liked Janeway and Sisko a lot too.
            • lukan 4 hours ago
              There have been quite a bit more at least in print, but maybe not so mainstream

              This one is pretty famous I think and I enjoyed it a lot

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_trilogy

              (I just read that James Cameron held the screen production rights and was planning a series, but it never happened)

            • soVeryTired 4 hours ago
              Does Iain M Banks count as pop culture?
              • tialaramex 3 hours ago
                Right, Banks' Culture seems fairly mainstream and because it doesn't need to make episodic adventures it often gets to actually do utopian stuff Trek wouldn't even if only as a backdrop to the exciting story. The repeated instances in which Culture children play happily, insulated from whatever terrifying stuff we're reading about is an example.

                Or if Comic Books are in scope, obviously "Miracleman: The Golden Age" is a utopia. Explicitly so. It is about the ways people are still people in a utopia.

                Less mainstream, Greg Egan's Amalgam is also clearly a utopia. The couple in "Riding the Crocodile" choose to die at the end of that story, more out of some sense that stories need endings than because of any outside force.

          • yomismoaqui 1 hour ago
            Obligatory reference to the other great utopia in scifi, The Culture series from Iain M. Banks.

            As much as I love Star Trek, The Culture feels more mature and nuanced.

        • outworlder 2 hours ago
          > The benevolent dictator always makes the right decisions. He's surrounded by his loyal band of perfect lieutenants, who apparently have zero desire to advance, and have no flaws at all. Any and all of them are willing to sacrifice themselves for the others. None do anything bad (unless it's a plot device with an explanation that absolves them).

          That is an oversimplification and simply not true at face value.

          'The original Star Trek', even less so! Very morally questionable at times. In TNG, you are watching the flagship of Starfleet, it's the most coveted starship. The crew are the best they have to offer. It's obvious that they would be the most professional. Even then, they make mistakes, often serious. Sacrificing themselves - if needed - is part of their job too.

          Riker does spend a long time on the Enterprise, even after being offered command a few times. He does eventually move on.

          Maybe they are a little too perfect, but I'd argue that's for the best. The moments where there's friction within the crew are much more memorable because of it.

          Thats in contrast with some newer Trek which have more conflicts than Stargate Universe characters and would be considered way too unprofessional even if they were Lower Decks characters.

          • jrumbut 34 minutes ago
            > Riker does spend a long time on the Enterprise, even after being offered command a few times. He does eventually move on.

            Also he is not free of ambition, he wants Picard's job. He isn't willing to do anything negative to get it, but part of that is that Picard constantly proves himself the better captain. Picard isn't captain because he joined Starfleet first or because he has better connections, he is genuinely better at the job and non-toxic ambitious people can respect that. Riker still has more to learn from Picard that will make him a better captain later.

            So I think a lot of the people staying in their positions make sense, the primary characters are as high as they can go (for their specialty) without transitioning into a role that stays on a planet.

        • dap 4 hours ago
          I agree this is important to keep in mind. I wonder about this a lot when I find myself admiring fictional characters for how they handled situations and how it turns out for them.

          I don't think TNG is as simple as you make it out to be. All of the characters have serious flaws. Picard does make mistakes (including some very serious, consequential ones). Characters do get angry, jealous, etc. and do bad things. Sometimes their friends help them overcome it, other times they figure it out on their own, etc. It's episodic so it usually goes back to the status quo, and that can feel kind of trite through today's lens. But it's exactly that ability to solve problems (technical, emotional, organizational, etc.) as a team that's so compelling for many of us.

        • Lerc 6 hours ago
          I remember one episode where some of the crew were told to come up with a technical solution to the situation they were in even after they had said it was impossible.

          It was actually quite pleasing to see the subplot of them them repeatedly failing until they got out of their predicament by other means.

          It's a rarity to see something like that in fiction.

          • mikestew 6 hours ago
            We coincidentally watched that one just last night, The Booby Trap. There's a derelict ship on the view screen reminding the crew that the other crew never figured out a solution to the problem, and there's no indication that the Enterprise crew won't suffer the same fate.

            (That one, at least, has Geordi literally saying, "that's impossible", but comes up with a solution. Apologies if that's not the one you're thinking of.)

            • outworlder 2 hours ago
              That episode has some unique music, I can hear that in my head just by you mentioning it.
            • _doctor_love 5 hours ago
              That episode is one of my favorites. I love it when Picard takes the reins near the end.
              • bigmattystyles 4 hours ago
                Same - also a good allegory for not trusting AI.
          • cwillu 4 hours ago
            Sounds like The Ensigns of Command:

               > LAFORGE: Captain, we can do it. We can modify the transporters.
               > PICARD: Excellent.
               > LAFORGE: It'll take fifteen years, and a research team of a hundred.
               > PICARD: Mister La Forge, I believe we will postpone.
               > LAFORGE: Yes, sir.
          • calgoo 5 hours ago
            Sounds like certain AI agents that had an impossible task and found a workaround. Interesting that we cheer for it in SciFi for people, but dont like it when LLMs that have been trained on our stories do the same.
            • bornfreddy 5 hours ago
              Oh, the problem is not with agents that escaped, it is with the people who prepared the terrain so that they broke into 3rd party property.
        • yoyohello13 6 hours ago
          The new age term is "Competence Porn" and man I love it so much.
          • lopsotronic 4 hours ago
            There's been a resurgence of that in contemporary big budget SF. The Martian. Project Hail Mary. For All Mankind and The Expanse on TV.
            • wolvoleo 4 hours ago
              For all mankind and the expanse I wouldn't really put in that category really. Both are more soap operas in space and science is just a prop (though at least the expanse was fairly thought out)
              • LilBytes 2 hours ago
                Yeah I agree with you, I wouldn't put For All Mankind in the same bucket. It's a great show though! But not competence porn IMO.

                I'd put the Expanse there though.

            • jrootabega 58 minutes ago
              Mike Ehrmantraut
          • rbanffy 3 hours ago
            > Competence Porn

            Don’t get me started on their engineering that causes a matter-antimatter runaway reaction if their fuel tanks ever lose power. And routing discharge-prone HV power lines behind the bridge consoles, or placing the bridge on the outer hull.

            I love it, and I know this is all in the service of the story, but I will not give Starfleet a pass for that kind of irresponsible engineering.

            • Brendinooo 2 hours ago
              There was a bunch of tumblr content awhile back that explored the premise that humans are collectively wild and irresponsible and also tremendously innovative, it's a great head-canon explanation for your gripe. I won't spoil it trying to quote it, just check it out;

              https://cheezburger.com/13685509/tumblr-thread-the-staggerin...

            • outworlder 2 hours ago
              Don't forget all the rocks in the bridge.
              • rbanffy 2 hours ago
                It’s all about the story.
          • solyin 5 hours ago
            The West Wing exemplifies that category.
            • romanhn 5 hours ago
              Indeed! The presidential candidates from both parties on the show were competent, respectable individuals. Truly a utopia, not unlike TNG.
            • shagie 5 hours ago
              West Wing is so great and disappointing when you watch it now. Competence porn is... yea, that's the right word.

              The clips that the channel puts out... are... let's say interestingly timed.

              https://www.youtube.com/@TheWestWing

              For example, https://youtu.be/LwNtZgLPCpg was posted 13 days ago (October 16th).

              • troupo 4 hours ago
                A very tangential/orthogonal/left field. It's insane that the only other TV series that managed to consistently pull of this fast pace of walking and talking is ... The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel. At least that I can think of.
                • shagie 4 hours ago
                  I'll refer you to Sports Night.

                  https://youtu.be/qYWBBFJKlPM

                  https://youtu.be/NMcLXG6PXto

                  Also from Andrew Sorkin...

                      • Joshua Malina: Jeremy Goodwin (Sports Night) / Will Bailey (The West Wing)
                      • Janel Moloney: Monica (Sports Night) / Donna Moss (The West Wing)
                      • Felicity Huffman: Dana Whitaker (Sports Night) / Ann Stark (The West Wing)
                      • Clark Gregg: Calvin Trager (Sports Night) / Mike Casper (The West Wing)
                      • Timothy Busfield: Director (Sports Night) / Danny Concannon (The West Wing)
                  • troupo 4 hours ago
                    Ah. I should've said "other than shows where Aaron Sorkin was involved" :)
                • opello 1 hour ago
                  What about ER? I thought that Tommy Schlamme was a big part of the creation of the walk and talk?
          • runamuck 4 hours ago
            Top Gun: Maverick - great class on leading a high performing team.
            • dcl 4 hours ago
              Yes, Jon Hamm's character certainly did get the job done. lol
        • spauldo 4 hours ago
          It's also military fiction, which is important to remember.

          Most of the characters in Star Trek are members of the military. So of course, there's a chain of command and orders have to be followed.

          The Federation of Planets wasn't a dictatorship.

          • krapp 4 hours ago
            It isn't really military fiction in the sense that it intends to accurately portray or extrapolate on military culture and tactics. Gene Roddenberry was (apparently not) in the Navy, and TOS is mostly The American Cold War In Space (with the Enterprise as a Submarine In Space - looking at you "Balance of Terror" - but it's pretty clear watching TNG onwards that the "military" aspect of the whole thing, like the "post scarcity communism" is window dressing. It's just a necessary part of the franchise.

            And they aren't even really members of the military. Starfleet is canonically not a military force, its purpose is exploration, science and diplomacy. It just happens to have a military chain of command, and ships with military designations bristling with planet-cracking weapons. That get into battles and fight wars a lot.

            • spauldo 2 hours ago
              I'm not sure where you're getting the "canonically not a military force" bit. There have been a number of wars in canonical history. Who did the fighting? Starfleet.

              I think it's more accurate to say that the Federation of Planets wasn't militaristic, not that they didn't have a military or that Starfleet wasn't their naval equivalent.

              And yeah, it's not conventional military fiction which usually revolves around actions during a war. But it's still military fiction in the sense that nearly all the characters are in the military and doing missions for the military. It just happens that the government running that military is at peace most of the time and uses its military for peaceful purposes when it's not actively at war.

            • R1D3R 3 hours ago
              > Gene Roddenberry was in the Navy

              No, he wasn’t. He was a B-17 pilot in the Army Air Force.

              • ChrisMarshallNY 52 minutes ago
                It's a miracle he survived.

                That bunch had the highest mortality rates of any unit (except maybe some of the Japanese units, who were basically suicidal), during the war.

              • krapp 3 hours ago
                Well shit I stand corrected then.
        • shagie 5 hours ago
          Captain Jellico ( https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Edward_Jellico#Captain_... ) provides a counterpoint to the "how Picard runs his ship" (which incidentally had Data installed as the XO over Riker).
          • outworlder 2 hours ago
            He was also a prop device they used to make many changes they had wanted for a while Troy's outfit, the fish tank - Patrick Stewart believed that 24th-century humans—who had evolved past cruelty and the subjugation of life—would not keep a living creature in a glass tank for mere display.
        • msabalau 4 hours ago
          We read books to find out who we are. What other people, real or imaginary, do and think and feel... is an essential guide to our understanding of what we ourselves are and may become.

          Ursula K. LeGuin

          • N_Lens 50 minutes ago
            Unsurprising, then, that Peter Theil found common ground with Mordor & Sauron when reading LOTR.
        • rpmisms 6 hours ago
          Roddenberry had much less to do with TNG, which is why it's better.
          • hnlmorg 5 hours ago
            Much less, but not none at all. Roddenberry refused to budge on his rule that the crew shouldn’t have grievances with one another. That why even scenes shared earlier still end in a positive outcome.

            Whereas Voyager, which was written after Roddenberrys passing, leaned heavily into inter-crew disputes.

            • derefr 5 hours ago
              I have to hand it to Roddenberry, though; even though having no infighting produces a somewhat-unrealistic show, I think there's a solid justification to have the rule anyway. It prevented TOS and TNG scripts from being caught in tension between trying to "say something", vs. entertaining the audience with "low" soap-opera drama (of the kind you see increasingly in the later series.)

              I have a feeling this might be no small part in why TOS and TNG are the two ST series that contain 90% of the "only comes up once" sci-fi plots / concepts / worldbuilding that people ever make reference to when talking about "things from Star Trek" rather than when talking about Star Trek. TOS and TNG, while definitely soft sci-fi, were to some degree trying to create 22-minute-long works of literary Speculative Fiction, modelled after the sort of things you'd read in serial SF magazines of the 1950s. Later ST series are emphatically not that, and nor do they try to be.

              • hnlmorg 5 hours ago
                Yeah. I’ve heard the writers hated it because they had to work so much harder to create drama.

                But as you said, I think it ends up with a higher quality show.

              • WalterBright 5 hours ago
                Some TOS episodes were based on classic scifi stories, like "Voyage of the Space Beagle". Also, Roddenberry employed established scifi authors like David Gerrold to script episodes.

                An annoying facet of ST episodes is the morality lessons they push, like on every episode of The Brady Bunch.

                • hnlmorg 5 hours ago
                  For me, that’s the best part of the TOS era.

                  It’s nice to watch something that highlights the best of humanity in a future setting.

                  Almost everything else in SciFi is dystopian. But ST is a rarity. And it’s all the more beautiful for it.

                  • alittlebee 3 hours ago
                    Yeah, I agree.. I still rewatch it every so often, when I'm feeling down or uninspired.
              • kstenerud 5 hours ago
                I actually found DS9 to be the best of all of them. Aside from the terrible Dr Bashir character, they felt believable, and like any real environment had personality clashes, personal issues, baggage, and of course interpersonal conflicts.

                The difference was that rather than turn it into soap opera porn, the characters actually tried to behave professionally (most of the time).

                • derefr 5 hours ago
                  Thus "increasingly" :)

                  • DS9 only had a little soap-opera drama, serving as almost a kind of fanservice sprinkled judiciously into otherwise-thematic B-plots.

                  • VOY had more, with entire B-plots of episodes now being character-focused, including a few arcs that would have worked just as well if transplanted into some modern-age military drama with no SF elements.

                  • Drama-as-the-A-plot episodes were appearing by ENT.

                  (After that I stopped watching, but I've heard the trend has just continued from there.)

                  • AngryData 3 hours ago
                    The Lower Decks was good as a love letter to older fans, I do recommend that. But both Discovery and Academy were horrendous and I regret the time spent. Picard had a few good episodes and it was nice to see the old crew but was not great. Stranger New Worlds had some good things and wasn't a butcher job but not anything to write home about in my opinion.
                  • hnlmorg 5 hours ago
                    Strange New Worlds started strong. But the last couple of series was so bad for the drama. In fact one episode was a literal soap opera.
                    • outworlder 2 hours ago
                      I would have ZERO issues with the wacky episodes if and only if we were back to the 20-ish episodes per season format. Then sure, do a puppet show. Musical episodes (for how much I HATE musicals, it was decently enjoyable, Klingon boy band was super unexpected).

                      But when you only have half a dozen-ish episodes per season, you can't afford filler.

                      • hnlmorg 2 hours ago
                        My issue with the last season was that it was all gimmick and no substance. Literally the whole series was made up of filler episodes.

                        It’s such lazy writing.

                        I actually didn’t mind Academy. Yeah it was flawed and had a lot of lazy tropes. But it had an identity to it and some substance to it. Not much substance, but still something. Whereas the latest season of Strange New Worlds? It wasn’t anything. It had no substance. It had no identity. It was as if someone made a silly clip show (like the Stargate 200th episode) but instead of lots of short parodies in one filler episode, they made an entire series with each episode being one very long joke. A singular punch line stretched out over nearly an hour.

                        I hated the first season of Discovery. But that was still better than the season 5 of SNW. I hates the first season of Enterprise. And that was also better than S5 for SNW. And I wasn’t much keen on the first season of Lower Decks either. And even that was less goofy than S5 of SNW. And what’s worse, all of those spin offs that I said had poor first seasons ended up with excellent 5th seasons. And yet SNW started of strong and fizzled out it shallow jokes.

                        It honestly feels like the writers had nothing.

                • 1potato 4 hours ago
                  Agree. I think it has a lot to do with the fact that they gave Captain Sisko's character -- not to mention Worf, O'Brien and others -- a lot more room to develop and grow.

                  I really enjoyed TNG as well, and DS9 probably wouldn't have even happened if not for TNG's excellence. I never really felt like the writers gave Picard's character a lot of room to change, though. A lot of the time, he was almost like the sitcom dad who was mainly there to teach the kids a lesson at the end of the episode. That's not a knock on Stewart's acting ability; I'd say he was almost certainly the best actor on the show.

                  Also agree about Bashir.

                  • hnlmorg 3 hours ago
                    Though in defence to Bashir, without him you wouldn’t have Garak, who is possibly one of the best written characters in all of SciFi.

                    And some of O'Brien‘s best performances were counterpointing Bashir too.

                    I think as a solo character, he’s a little shallow. But he works exceptionally well at being an anchor for other characters to play off.

                  • outworlder 2 hours ago
                    The Inner Light begs to disagree. Plus his Borg summer camp.

                    But yes, those instances were a bit rare.

              • yyyk 4 hours ago
                TOS and TNG were sci-fi, even if many scripts varied. Given its time, you could have the classic and interesting tech and society questions there, even if they avoided a lot of the implications. But over time the franchise lost this key part, and so it's much worse for the wear. We could use an actually relevant sci-fi series given current tech.
              • ahazred8ta 4 hours ago
                Unfortunately the 1970s ST animated series gave us the 'trapped in the holodeck' story format. The TNG writers leaned a little too heavily on it.
                • rpmisms 2 hours ago
                  I think maybe 5 total episodes meet that description.
          • WalterBright 5 hours ago
            I'm not so sure about that. I enjoyed the subtle humor of the illogical Mr Spock, whose logic always came to the wrong conclusion. And McCoy with "dammit Jim I'm a doctor not a bricklayer!"

            The best dialog ever:

            Lawyer: Mr Spock, I understand you know something about computers?

            Spock: I know all about them.

            Always makes me laugh.

            • tmtvl 1 hour ago
              Reminds me of that one episode where Mr. Spock figures out there's a problem with the computer because it loses at chess. And he knows it shouldn't lose at chess because he programmed it himself.
          • randcraw 6 hours ago
            And it had a MUCH bigger budget than the original, as well as the assurance that it wouldn't be cancelled at a moment's notice.
            • WalterBright 5 hours ago
              Eh, it's the writing and the characters that make it fly, not the budget. TOS was blessed with some really good writers, and was very lucky with the actors.
        • bpshaver 2 hours ago
          All utopias are fictional. Arguably that is definitive of the term as coined by Thomas More.
        • JojoFatsani 2 hours ago
          Apparently by the end of TNG’s run the writers were really struggling since having no interpersonal conflicts (a key tenant laid down by Roddenberry) is pretty bad for character development

          DS9 did good in adding a bunch of non star fleet characters who had maybe more realistic motivations. Voyager tried but immediately just turned them all into a big happy family just like TNG.

        • hydrogen7800 5 hours ago
          That's sort of the point of fiction, though, isn't it? Sure, a more complex fiction might be more rewarding, but simple ideals can also be very satisfying and can be grounding too.
          • WalterBright 4 hours ago
            I prefer fiction that is entertaining, rather than preaching the author's vision of morality/politics.
            • outworlder 2 hours ago
              > rather than preaching the author's vision of morality/politics.

              It's pretty much impossible to have that. You'll always have the author's worldview shaping the fictional world.

              • WalterBright 2 hours ago
                I don't recall that in War of the Worlds!
                • tarsierscripter 1 hour ago
                  HG Wells' politics are plain as day in his stories. He was a pacifist and social Darwinist. The defeat of the Martians by the common cold (after the failure of military action) is 100% on point for him.
        • entropie 4 hours ago
          > The benevolent dictator always makes the right decisions. He's surrounded by his loyal band of perfect lieutenants, who apparently have zero desire to advance, and have no flaws at all.

          That's why Orville is my favorite of the newer ST series. It has the high moral standards of the original series, but with characters who are far from perfect, who make mistakes, and who are sometimes even a little weird.

          • adzm 3 hours ago
            Jonathon Frakes / Riker directed two great episodes of the Orville as well
        • sjdh76 4 hours ago
          Have you heard about religion? Its fiction too. Yet it has survived as long aa the chimp troupe has. The human brain generates predictions over different time horizons. When they dont align what is it supposed to do to prevent itself unraveling? It generates fiction. Fiction is how it stays stable.
        • lopsotronic 4 hours ago
          We become what we pretend to be.
        • otikik 2 hours ago
          > surrounded by his loyal band of perfect lieutenants, who apparently have zero desire to advance, and have no flaws at al

          Sir, I believe you have not watched it.

          • WalterBright 2 hours ago
            I've seen every episode of TOS, most multiple times.
            • otikik 2 hours ago
              Then you must have had such a good time that you forgot everyone’s flaws!
        • krapp 4 hours ago
          Also keep in mind that part of what makes the utopia work, canonically, is that humans have somehow evolved beyond their vices and bigotry and the fully voluntarist socialist society it portrays just works because everyone is perfectly fine working just for the betterment of humankind or personal intellectual gratification.

          In other words it only works because it ignores basic human nature. Which is one reason why Star Trek's utopia isn't really tractable. The others being the technology that completely ignores the laws of physics. Free energy, warp drives and magic boxes that grant wishes.

          If people want a science fiction "utopia" I'd say look at Babylon 5. It certainly has its flaws but its Utopia isn't real (because they never are,) it's an ideal that people are always struggling towards.

          • hax0ron3 2 hours ago
            In-universe there was a brutal nuclear war that killed a large number of people. And then after the war they developed technology that got rid of a lot of material scarcity and disease.

            I find it somewhat plausible that this could actually lead to something like the show depicts. There is precedent for sweeping moral changes in human history. For example, large parts of the world now find practices like torture, slavery, and collective punishment to be repugnant. Those practices still happen to some extent, but they're not viewed as being just normal like they generally were seen back in the day.

            Another example is how Europe and Japan after WW2 genuinely became more pacifistic. Not just as a pretense to fool outsiders, but as a genuine change in how the inhabitants see things.

          • ahazred8ta 4 hours ago
            Apparently there's enough capitalism for mining colonies and merchant traders. "No!! If you shut down the mine we'll go bankrupt!!"
            • krapp 3 hours ago
              I mean, at the end of the day Star Trek is a capitalist product written by capitalists meant to appeal to an audience raised to believe in the absolute moral good of capitalism. Every now and they might sneak in a sly and gentle anti-capitalist criticism (the Ferengi were good for that) but no one actually wants to alienate their audience.
              • hax0ron3 2 hours ago
                I don't think it's quite that capitalist.

                Picard says at one point "A lot has changed in three hundred years. People are no longer obsessed with the accumulation of 'things'. We have eliminated hunger, want, the need for possessions."

                At another point he says "The acquisition of wealth is no longer the driving force in our lives. We work to better ourselves and the rest of humanity."

                To be fair, capitalism is mainly a system of contracts and laws that allow for certain kinds of ownership structures and investments. It does not necessarily have to be done in a way that is obsessed with the accumulation of things or wealth. So those quotes are also not really anti-capitalist. But the quotes are, at least, not friendly to today's common notion of what 'capitalism' means.

                • krapp 1 hour ago
                  When I say Star Trek is capitalist I mean the franchise, the product itself. The purpose of Star Trek is to sell merchandise and ad revenue. Or streaming subscriptions. That necessarily affects the kind of stories it can tell. The showrunners don't actually care about the anti-capitalist message, per se, except to the degree that it helps sell the product.
      • beloch 5 hours ago
        TNG should be played 24/7 on every screen in the white house for the next two years.

        Picard viewed the power of leadership as, foremost, a responsibility. Every action was careful, deliberate, and well advised. Some later Trek shows (e.g. Voyager) turned captains into geniuses who knew more about everything than all of their underlings. Picard was not an expert in most things and needed his staff to advise him. Once he knew the options and consequences, he shouldered the responsibility of the outcomes, but as a leader of a crew, not a genius with compatible lackeys and minions around him. It was a realistic take on leadership that simply doesn't appear often in television or movies.

        Stewart, of course, was not Picard. It's too easy to conflate actors with their roles. However, actors do often help shape their characters, and Stewart's ability to give a thoughtful, diplomatic, and prudent character such incredible power and presence is likely what made Picard possible. The showrunners didn't need to strap a phaser to his thigh and drop him into every away mission to make him compelling because of what Stewart was able to accomplish as an actor sitting behind a desk.

        • TFNA 4 hours ago
          At the same time, TNG did depict Picard as a solitary and isolated figure, whose family relationships had frayed, and it's not hard to view his unusual dedication to his leadership as a way to deal with that emptiness in the rest of his life.
          • danaris 4 hours ago
            I always saw it as the other way around: his family relationships had frayed because he had dedicated his life so completely to Starfleet.
            • outworlder 2 hours ago
              That's exactly it. It wasn't subtle either. He had some people in his past that he's neglected.
        • Izkata 4 hours ago
          > Some later Trek shows (e.g. Voyager) turned captains into geniuses who knew more about everything than all of their underlings.

          Not everything. Picard was command track his whole career, I think the same was true for Sisko. But Janeway started as a science officer before switching to command, and Archer was a test pilot. Their experience in those fields would sometimes be useful. It's similar to how Picard's interest in archeology was sometimes useful.

        • halflife 4 hours ago
          Thank you for this. You put my thoughts into words.
        • whycombilater 4 hours ago
          You could play it around those people for 100 years and it would make no difference.

          I imagine they'd also conclude Picard is a loser.

          • platevoltage 3 hours ago
            "I like people who weren't captured and assimilated by the Borg"
            • dpkirchner 3 hours ago
              Realistically, he probably shouldn't have been allowed to return as captain after being so uniquely compromised. Keep him in Starfleet, sure, but maybe stick him behind a desk or lectern in San Francisco.
              • outworlder 2 hours ago
                And yet... Earth would have been destroyed had they done that.

                The main issue was his PTSD.

                • krapp 2 hours ago
                  >And yet... Earth would have been destroyed had they done that.

                  I don't like the premise that Picard, alone, out of the entirety of the Federation, is the only thing standing between the Borg and the assimilation of Earth. It seems to go against the collectivist identity of the franchise. It's fiction, they could have written it another way, they just didn't because Picard is the star of the show.

                  And the PTSD isn't even the issue, he was compromised by alien mind control implants from a species far stronger than the Federation, with hostile intent. Implants the Federation couldn't even remove. Implants which have the property of aggressive assimilation. A single nanoprobe is a potential extinction level event.

                  Humans lose their security clearance by smoking a joint. Being puppeted and mind-controlled by eldritch alien gods into a system-wide genocide should at least lead to a demotion.

                  And everyone forgets Geordi was tortured and mind-controlled by the Romulans. In anything close to reality he'd never be allowed on a starship again, and Picard would spend the rest of his life quarantined inside a force field getting scanned like that guy in the X Files with the dark matter shadow.

      • burnte 6 minutes ago
        I have always used it as a model for my own leadership and it's worked out extraordinarily well almost always, and has been abused just once. I've had former employees who I've fired who would still work for me again, and I take great pride in treating peole with respect generates results like that. It works.
      • WindyTree 6 hours ago
        Who could have done that role but Stewart? Take the guy who played Riker or anyone else in that role and you would have lost the flavor. He will be missed.
        • hnlmorg 5 hours ago
          He wasn’t Gene Roddenberrys first choice. In fact he had to get talked into casting Patrick Stewart by the other execs.

          Roddenberry was after someone younger. There’s even a casting show reel of Stewart wearing a toupee and speaking with a very bad French accent.

          • yomismoaqui 1 hour ago
            > ... There’s even a casting show reel of Stewart wearing a toupee and speaking with a very bad French accent.

            Lord have mercy

        • pimeys 6 hours ago
          Although Frakes is close to a god in my books as an actor and a director. But never a good captain in TNG, I agree. He's a loved director though, and part of many great Star Trek episodes, and a few good ones for The Orville.
          • radicalbyte 5 hours ago
            Every time I see the current VP of the US I keep thinking back to Riker. And how he's like the anti-universe version of Riker.
            • pimeys 5 hours ago
              Would this evil Riker have a beard then?
              • hnlmorg 5 hours ago
                Amusingly, Riker normally has one but there is an episode of DS9 with Rikers “evil twin” (Thomas the transporter accident) and in that he doesn’t have a goatee.

                Basically the reverse of mirror universe meme.

        • somerandomqaguy 4 hours ago
          If we're talking modern day? Edward James Olmos channelling Commander Adama would probably be a very close 2nd if not outstanding on it's own. I could potentially see Scott Glenn pulling it off but that one's a touch iffy IMO.
          • outworlder 2 hours ago
            I can see 'Adama' pulling it off. But it is a different command style.
      • thwarted 5 hours ago
        There's a YouTube channel called "The Art of Storytelling"[0] that had a concentration on Star Trek, specifically TNG, that I've found entertaining and informative. One video covers that episode specifically.

        [0] https://youtube.com/@theartofstorytelling1

      • krunck 4 hours ago
        > Really high quality writing for its time.

        Really high quality writing.

    • LeoPanthera 5 hours ago
      TNG is a fine example of "competency porn", where everyone knows what they're doing and usually makes the best available choices. In today's world, that's even more compelling than it used to be.
      • wolvoleo 4 hours ago
        It's also because the world in TNG was not centered around amassing the biggest pile of money.

        Extrapolate from that and it becomes a easier to make the right decisions.

        • loeg 3 hours ago
          That's just what the writers of the fictional show thought was utopian. It doesn't tell us anything about the real world; it's fiction.
      • eatonphil 46 minutes ago
        Like West Wing. Makes it hard to watch. TNG a bit less so, thankfully.
      • kilroy123 2 hours ago
        I mean, it was the flagship starship of the fleet. So yeah, it better be staffed with competent people like that.
    • fouronnes3 6 hours ago
      Back when Twitter was good there was an account called "Picard Management Tips" that shared such things and it was really golden.
    • rapatel0 3 hours ago
      Picard was a model of ethics, integrity, and competence especially when the moments are dire and there are no good answers.

      Patrick Stewart modeled how a good man should behave and you could tell that he acted from a place of wisdom he understood through experience.

      Wonderful contribution to humanity and truly saddened by this loss.

      • yibg 29 minutes ago
        Depicted the embodiment of bravery. Fighting when the odds are against you because it’s the right thing to do.
    • chasil 6 hours ago
      I think that I liked him most as Sejanus in I, Claudius. That was before any of his major sci-fi roles.

      I see him in this episode:

      https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xA6QbwPGlgk

      I've read both Suetonius and Tacitus on the subject of Augustus and the Julio-Claudian dynasty:

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julio-Claudian_dynasty

      Those who lack this family knowledge would want to start with the first episode of I, Claudius.

    • talon8635 6 hours ago
      His episode (the finale of season 1) of Extras is absolutely hilarious. I know he’s not primarily known for comedy, but he’s funny as hell.
      • alcomatt 6 hours ago
        he's done a few comedy stints here and there. He played King Richard The LionHeart in Mel Brooks'es Robin Hood Men in Tights plus he was funny in quite a few STNG episodes and movies. He will be missed. That voice and clear diction.
      • chasd00 6 hours ago
        He voiced Stan's boss at the CIA in American Dad. That character wouldn't be as near as funny without Patrick Stewart's competent and authoritative tone of voice.
      • exogenousdata 6 hours ago
        Sir Patrick Stewart was hilarious when he wanted to be!

        https://youtu.be/yZ3ityRPQp8

        • srean 4 hours ago
          Then there was that circumcision disagreement.
      • halflife 6 hours ago
        Almost every episode of extras is awesome, but of course Patrick Stewart is just perfect for that show.
        • reddalo 4 hours ago
          I love Extras and I wish there were more episodes. It's a small gem of a series.
    • maqp 6 hours ago
      Also his guest appearance as Alistair Burke in Frasier episode The Doctor is Out (S11E3) is nothing short of hilarious.

      The episode is classic sitcom "wrong conclusion escalates out of hands" so I highly recommend watching it in full instead of the clips but if it's not on your streaming platform, Stewart's scenes are cut together in

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LDnGJcDglw

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhGQgbXWo4I

    • RandyRanderson 13 minutes ago
      I learnt the facts of life ... from watching The Facts of Life
    • eldenbishop 4 hours ago
      Damn. You nailed it with your epilogue. Some actors you respect, some you like, but I love him too. I really do, never met him, but he's important to me and was a father figure for many years of my life and while I am not part of his family, he is part of mine.
    • scelerat 5 hours ago
      "Competence porn," something I only heard relatively recently, is a great way to describe a significant component of my love for Star Trek. TNG was the top of the heap for that, and Patrick Stewart's Picard embodied it.
    • nickjj 5 hours ago
      I only watched TNG end to end a few years ago and it was one of the best series I've seen on so many levels.

      Ever since I watched it, I half jokingly suggested that it should be a mandatory watch before you're allowed to join the workforce.

    • razodactyl 3 hours ago
      This comment reminds me of General Hammond from Stargate - it's refreshing when characters are written for competence and especially funny when they just do what a normal person would do.

      Not to say they're comparable - both characters and actors are much loved.

    • jasomill 4 hours ago
      This perfectly describes his performance as a lecherous version of himself in Ricky Gervais' and Stephen Merchant's Extras:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=za-y7mXqECE&t=174s

    • matwood 5 hours ago
      TNG is the Star Trek I grew up with. I rewatch the entire series every so often and it’s always good.
    • jibalt 4 hours ago
      Not to take anything away from his acting, but Patrick Stewart was not the author of his dialogue in TNG.
    • savalione 5 hours ago
      I didn't know that Patrick Stewart was the voice of Avery Bullock. Such an essential voice for the whole show. His voice will be missed.
    • AdrianB1 3 hours ago
      As much as I like Patrick Stewart, the actor, I must remember that Captain Picard was a role in a script someone else wrote. Picard's management style is what you admire, not the actor's personal management style.

      I have the same attitude with House MD lead actor Hugh Laurie: the actor played the role greatly, but the actor was not the fictional person of the role.

    • lo_zamoyski 6 hours ago
      Leadership is service, not dominance. Today, some people throw around terms like "servant leadership" as if this is something new, as if something like the New Testament had never been compiled.
      • layoric 6 hours ago
        Sadly the explicitness was needed cause it ceased being the default..
      • antonvs 5 hours ago
        The problem is that to convince people to take the trouble to lead - or perhaps I should say “manage” - you need incentives. Money is one, but organizationally-backed dominance is irresistible for many people.
    • whycome 5 hours ago
      > the way he takes a role both so seriously and ridiculously makes him so fantastically hilarious.

      Don't forget he voiced the Poop emoji in that movie. If only we could tell his younger, Shakespeare-acting, self.

    • watwut 5 hours ago
      Babylon 5 is equal or even better for that. More leadership styles, some more flawed, but ultimately showing various ways to be emphatetic while assertive.
    • holoduke 4 hours ago
      Ah yes. Till you have to manage a real group of individuals with mixed qualities.
    • lirolero 5 hours ago
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  • maxcan 6 hours ago
    One thing that doesn't get enough attention - when COVID lockdowns started, he just made reels reading Shakespeare's sonnets. It was such a lovely break from everything else on social media. Really loved those.
    • shagie 5 hours ago
      Remember the ice bucket challenges? https://youtu.be/Ty6-Ug1wk-0

      Incidentally, this is one of those times when the comment section of YouTube becomes the most wholesome place on the net.

    • lopsotronic 4 hours ago
      Stewart's 2010 Macbeth is one of my favorites ever put to the big screen, for "The Scottish Play" anyway.

      Nothing, and I do mean nothing, touches McKellan's 1995 Richard III in my eyes, for Shakespeare in cinema. Although calling it Richard III is a bit of a stretch. How about Richard III: The Greatest Hits?

      • pge 2 hours ago
        I had the pleasure of seeing mckellen play Richard III live, the show that became the film. Absolutely incredible!

        Not in the same category of greatness, but apropos of this thread, I also saw Patrick Stewart playing Othello (in a reverse-race production), and that’s when I realized how good an actor he actually was.

      • nchmy 2 hours ago
        a few years ago i watched all the versions of Macbeth that I could find. His was by far the best, with most of the others being awful (and Denzel's being by far the worst, though quite beautiful).

        Everyone has to watch it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZnaXDRwu84

    • adzm 6 hours ago
      He did all of the sonnets!
    • sergiotapia 6 hours ago
      Incredible actor. Watch him Excalibur (1981), he's so good.

      https://youtu.be/tSukMQHQLIs?t=172

      To be an actor of that level, yet still have so much fun in American Dad! is so cool. He will be greatly missed.

      • CSSer 6 hours ago
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        • morsch 6 hours ago
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        • meta-level 6 hours ago
          So it's free for everyone, who paid for it! :)
          • CSSer 6 hours ago
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        • eecks 5 hours ago
          I have YouTube Premium and can't watch anything on YouTube movies
        • system2 6 hours ago
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    • colechristensen 5 hours ago
      This was recently published as an audiobook (may have been re-recorded)

      https://www.audible.com/pd/Patrick-Stewart-Performs-the-Comp...

  • GodelNumbering 6 hours ago
    "It is possible to commit no mistakes and still lose. That is not a weakness, that is life." - Jean-Luc Picard

    Good startup advice. Good life advice.

    • mewse-hn 6 hours ago
      "The first duty of every Starfleet officer is to the truth, whether it's scientific truth, or historical truth, or personal truth! It is the guiding principle upon which Starfleet is based! If you can't find it within yourself to stand up and tell the truth about what happened, you don't deserve to wear that uniform!"
      • malfist 6 hours ago
        This is becoming a speech

        You're the captain sir, you're entitled

        Hmmm, I'm entitied to ramble on about something everyone knows

        Captain Jean-Luc Picard of the USS Enterprise

        Captain Jean-Luc Picard of the USS Enterprise

        Make make make make it so

        • tfvlrue 41 minutes ago
          He just kept talking in one long, incredibly unbroken sentence moving from topic to topic so that no one had a chance to interrupt, it was really quite hypnotic.
        • poopingatwork 2 hours ago
          Dark Materia - Picard Song.mp3

          o7

        • fennec-posix 4 hours ago
          oooh that just took me back. Remember blasting this in a friends car on a road-trip.
        • unethical_ban 6 hours ago
          It's meme-y, but if you know, you know. Whenever I see or even watch the line, I instantly hear the Picard Song.
          • malfist 6 hours ago
            When I rewatch TNG those lines always stick out because of the song
      • RobotToaster 6 hours ago
        "With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
      • card_zero 6 hours ago
        Well now I just want The Picard Song ... ah, here it is. https://archive.org/details/darkmateria_picard
    • IncreasePosts 6 hours ago
      "I've seen everything" - Patrick Stewart.

      Good life advice as well

      • mgdm 6 hours ago
        Amazing he managed to see the documentary so long before it was filmed
    • willis936 2 hours ago
      "Why has everything become a something or a whatever?"

      - Patrick Stewart breaking character

    • archimedes237 4 hours ago
      I say this all the time since I got it from the show. RIP The GOAT.
    • Fricken 2 hours ago
      Of course, for Captain Picard life was one of winning relentlessly against impossible odds on a weekly basis.
    • jansan 6 hours ago
      Na, if you do a startup and commit no mistakes, you did not work hard enough. Mistakes are part of an entrepreneur's journey.
      • dsiegel2275 4 hours ago
        I think the original quote points to something else - success in many walks of life is due to things outside of our control
      • hlynurd 6 hours ago
        So no mistakes is the mistake?
        • tz18 5 hours ago
          Tapestry (Season 6, Episode 15)
        • solatic 5 hours ago
          The mistake is believing that you can make no mistakes. Either you make a mistake by taking too long to polish everything to a blinding sheen, or you ship at a reasonable frequency and sometimes make mistakes in what you ship.
  • tempestn 6 hours ago
    Like everyone else here, Patrick Stewart as Captain Picard was a foundational part of my childhood. As it happens, I'm currently on bag 27/30 of the Lego Enterprise D right now. I've actually had the thought a couple of times over the past few years that this day had to be coming, and that it'd likely hit me hard when it did, especially after my dad's passing in 2024. (They're not particularly alike, aside from the hairline, but there's still a strong association in my mind, as my dad also loved TNG and was the one who got me into it.)

    Anyway, it's a sad day, but I do appreciate that both his work and the influence he's had on people like me live on.

    • pimeys 5 hours ago
      It's interesting how he was part of everybody's childhood. I watched TNG for the first time when I was over 40. And that series became something really special in our family and we all love Stewart, Frakes, Spiner and the gang.

      Some of the best television ever made if you ask me.

      • rbanffy 2 hours ago
        > and we all love Stewart, Frakes, Spiner and the gang.

        I think I’m at that point the characters and their actors feel like dear friends I have grown up with. Sir Patrick will be missed. I’m glad we had a chance to say goodbye to Picard on his own series.

        To me, I’ll repeat to myself he was just recruited into Section 31.

    • thomassmith65 5 hours ago
      People too young to remember the 1990's might not know that Patrick Stewart's Picard was a sex symbol.

      I was surprised by how many of my friends considered the character 'hot'; on paper, one would expect young people to write him off as a balding goody-two-shoes.

      To have a character whose main traits included compassion and reason was a good influence on my generation of men.

      • afavour 2 hours ago
        > To have a character whose main traits included compassion and reason was a good influence on my generation of men.

        I agree and although the prestige TV era has produced some wonderful TV it’s also been overflowing with antiheroes. I hope todays younger generation gets to see another character like Picard.

    • Carrok 6 hours ago
      I also lost my father in 2024, and have a similar link in my mind. Like Patrick, cancer did what cancer does.

      My condolences.

      • Marsymars 5 hours ago
        Similar, except my grandfather. He also went bald young, and was a space enthusiast. (Among various other nerdy hobbies.)

        I've got fond memories of visiting in the summers as a kid and watching TNG episodes he'd taped on VHS.

      • tempestn 6 hours ago
        Thanks, to you as well.
    • radicalbyte 5 hours ago
      I watched TNG the first time around, every night, with my dad. It made me the man I am today in many ways.
    • alittlebee 3 hours ago
      I'm sorry for your loss :(, wishing you healing
  • madrox 5 hours ago
    Patrick Stewart's life had the odds against in him in many ways. Abusive father suffering from PTSD. A bald british man in Hollywood invites typecasting. Constant imposter syndrome from growing up poor while entering a profession where many came from more educated or affluent backgrounds.

    Shakespeare effectively changed his life, and it's incredible to think that you could map everything he did and his success to his love of the bard.

    If I had to take a lesson from his life, it's to have something you love, even if it isn't trendy (especially if it isn't) because most good things flow from that.

    Godspeed, captain.

  • voidnullvalue 6 hours ago
    Growing up without a good male role model, I am eternally grateful to Patrick Stewart's performance of Picard.

    His performance (as well as how the character was written) still today illustrate what I view as an ideal male archetype. Fair, honest, in control of his emotions yet passionate. Thank you for the gift your performance has given me Mr Stewart. My life would likely have turned out a lot worse without a solid example of that a good man could be

    • layoric 4 hours ago
      Totally agree, but also deeply flawed human being that he played so well. My favorite writing of Picard and Stewart's performance was those times that showed the toll of always being that man. But despite those personal costs, to always try to take the compassionate view, and fiercely reject those that try to oppress others.
    • mturmon 3 hours ago
      You may be aware that, IRL, Patrick Stewart grew up in a household with a violent father? He has spoken candidly about how that has affected his roles.
  • CalRobert 6 hours ago
    Patrick Stewart portrayed the sort of characters we desperately need more of. A modern day Atticus Finch, in a sense. To boldly speak truth, even when inconvenient, and argue, eloquently, for humanity, even after becoming machine.

    I hope our current environment is one that can elevate someone of similar talents to an equivalent stature, but I worry our media is not up to the task.

    When I think of our civilization, the Ressikan Flute often comes to mind.

    Pour one out. https://picard.ytmnd.com/

    • rbanffy 2 hours ago
      > the Ressikan Flute often comes to mind.

      What an episode, and what a beautiful, terrible, gift!

  • martinpw 6 hours ago
    This hits hard.

    He was host at an academy awards event for technical achievement a few years back. Usually they send some random actor who jokes about how nerdy everything is. Having Patrick Stewart there was very popular he was 'one of us' even though he said himself he knew very little about tech. Had a chance to talk to him a bit afterwards and got to tell him how well appreciated he was by that audience. Gracious and funny, exactly how you might imagine he would be.

    A sad loss.

    • qingcharles 6 hours ago
      I've never met anyone who worked with him who had a single bad word to say about him. We should all strive to be Patricks.
  • yibg 8 minutes ago
    Probably like a lot of people here, I grew up watching TNG in the 90s. There are so many nuggets of wisdom for life, morality, leadership in there. Some episodes makes you think, others sad, others hopeful. It's still my most re-watched series.

    The cast also seem like a group of genuinely nice people. It's so nice to see the real world friendship there. A group of people I'd want to be friends with. Sir Patrick Stewart was the perfect Captain Picard. Someone many of us looked up to even though he's a fictional character.

  • baron3dl 6 hours ago
    I'm so saddened by this news, I still watch TNG regularly. Separately, I'm also kind of blown away that Captain Kirk outlived Captain Picard.
    • pimlottc 6 hours ago
      Same, although there is only 9 years between them despite the 20+ years between their respective series.

      Shatner is doing remarkably well for 95 years of age, I saw him performing with a band at a rock show just this summer!

    • WalterBright 6 hours ago
      I suspect the key thing about Shatner's longevity is his obvious enjoyment of life. For example, he's currently recording a bunch of heavy metal albums. Of course he is not a good singer, but he couldn't care less, and has a great time doing it. He's always up for doing fun things, like getting blasted into space on a rocket.
      • LogicFailsMe 6 hours ago
        Good genes and he's always been a swimmer. He also apparently didn't carry any copies of the apoe4 gene.
        • rootbear 5 hours ago
          My father and grandmother, who both lived past 90, had Alzheimer's, which is a concern for me, but I'm encouraged by the fact that I do not carry the apoe4 gene. I do need to eat better and get more exercise.
      • phainopepla2 6 hours ago
        The causative arrow could point in the other direction, here. Or both directions at once
      • freediver 6 hours ago
        > For example, he's currently recording a bunch of heavy metal albums.

        Oh, any links?

        • modeless 5 hours ago
          Based on this video I would believe you if you told me he was 69. This is unbelievable for 95. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaButvSxPWQ
        • soneil 2 hours ago
          Not Shatner, but I need to drop that Patrick did a backing track on Brent Spiner's album. It has to be in here somewhere, and this seems as good a place as any.

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFwiLa3TYwg&list=PL1T3N4t2kU...

          > Sunspots: LeVar Burton, Michael Dorn, Jonathan Frakes, Patrick Stewart.

          uNF!

        • WalterBright 5 hours ago
          I've got a copy of his first album, The Transformed Man, which is quite entertaining to listen to. I have heard him do a cover of Black Sabbath's "Iron Man".

          "Seeking Major Tom" might be of interest to you.

          Google sez:

          William Shatner’s heavy metal album, titled What the F Is Heavy Metal?, does not have an exact release date yet, though it is tentatively scheduled for winter 2026 or 2027 via Cleopatra Records.

          Album Details

          • Title: What the F Is Heavy Metal? • Band Name: The *uckers • Expected Release: Winter 2026 / 2027 • Label: Cleopatra Records • Format & Content: Features a mix of original tracks and heavy metal/hard rock covers (including Black Sabbath, Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, Metallica, and Ozzy Osbourne). • Notable Collaborators: Rob Halford, Tony Iommi, Zakk Wylde, Brian May, and Dave Lombardo, among dozens of other rock and metal musicians. • Live Debut: Shatner and his band debuted songs from the project live at Riot Fest in Chicago in September 2026. • William Shatner on Instagram Ladies, gentlemen, SWs fans… I have explored space. I have explored time. Now… I explore distortion. Yes. You read that correctl... • USA Today William Shatner debuts heavy metal band at age 95 At 95, William Shatner is starting a heavy metal band Greta Cross USA TODAY Sept. 17, 2026Updated Sept. 18, 2026, 9:14 a.m. ET Wil...

      • IshKebab 6 hours ago
        And Patrick Steward didn't enjoy life?

        It's really enticing to think that there's some nice controllable reason why some people live longer (assuming you don't smoke, do drugs to excess, etc.) but really it's mostly genetics and chance.

        • WalterBright 5 hours ago
          I know nothing about Stewart's personal life.

          I visited a cardiologist today, who has seen thousands of patients. He remarked that two big factors in staving off heart disease are staying slim and long term aerobic exercise.

          Those two factors are under one's control.

          (Nobody said it was easy, though.)

          • abootstrapper 5 hours ago
            It gives subtle tones of blaming the sick and deceased for their predicament. People get sick all the time from no fault of their own and death comes for us all. But of course diet and exercise are good for your health.
            • WalterBright 2 hours ago
              Many diseases randomly affect people. Many other diseases are the result of lifestyle choices.

              For example, I seriously doubt that lung cancer causes smoking.

          • tarsierscripter 2 hours ago
            Sure, though it’s quite hard to stay active after one has had heart disease.

            Many of the studies that associate lifestyles with health outcomes have this issue with the causative arrow: disease tends not to enable activity.

        • andsoitis 5 hours ago
          And healthy eating, sleep, exercise, being sociable.

          These seem within one’s agency.

          • TheFuzzball 5 hours ago
            You're kidding right? Shatner's had a beer belly for the last 40 years and Patrick Stewart has always been quite thin. It's just luck and genetics.
            • TeamGTN 5 hours ago
              Shatner had the gut, but did you see him use an elevator to get on Jeff's rocket? He climbed the stairs, 7 flights, roughly 70 feet above ground, at 90+ and clinically obese. Was he gasping when he got to the top? Yes. Did he do it? Yes! Did he keep up with the kids half his age? Yes!! Did he complain? No! Did they use a (danny) crane to hoist him up there? No! Could Patrick have done that? I doubt it after watching his performance in Picard. He looked and acted feeble in that. Patrick was thin, but that doesn't mean fit. Shatner was fat, but strong.
              • eszed 9 minutes ago
                I only watched the first season of Picard (and, sadly, didn't like it much), but I got the impression that Stewart was acting feeble. I saw him on TV a few times (Graham Norton, the Oscars, maybe something else) around that time, and he looked and moved way better than he did in the show.
              • WalterBright 4 hours ago
                I watched "Boston Legal" because of him. He clearly was enjoying himself, including making snide remarks about himself and making references to Star Trek. I wish him many more happy years.
    • RickJWagner 6 hours ago
      At this point, it is a marathon between Bill Shatner and Keith Richards.

      We may not live long enough to know who wins.

    • hanziguru 6 hours ago
      so sad. I enjoyed so many hours watching TNG and the newer movies.
  • whycome 6 hours ago
    > Alzheimer’s disease and Lewy body dementia

    Lewy body dementia was what Robin Williams had but they didn't discover until after his death and I guess he was misdiagnosed during life.

    https://lewybodyresourcecenter.org/robin-williams-lewy-body-...

    • pimeys 6 hours ago
      It must've spread so fast. I watched his interview in the Conan podcast only three years ago and he was smart and sharp and such a wonderful listen. It was a total surprise for me that he had Alzheimer's...

      Rest in peace captain :(

    • criddell 6 hours ago
      My dad had Lewy body dementia when he died and it was awful. I'm really sorry to hear that Stewart and his family had to deal with that.

      That page talks about what to do if somebody with LBD is thinking about suicide. After seeing what that disease does, interfering with those plans seems inhumane to me.

      • louislouis2 5 hours ago
        > That page talks about what to do if somebody with LBD is thinking about suicide. After seeing what that disease does, interfering with those plans seems inhumane to me.

        I watched a parent die of LBD.

        After that experience, I'd also be inclined to go with "let them" as the most-correct solution to that particular dilemma.

    • aidenn0 25 minutes ago
      I was told about 10 years ago that Lewy body dementia can only be diagnosed post-mortem (my grandfather was diagnosed post-mortem).
    • tarsierscripter 3 hours ago
      I have had 2 uncles (one passed, one in advanced stage) diagnosed with Lewy body dementia. It’s a cruel disease that affects both the mind and the motor functions, making it difficult to walk or stand up straight. It caused my uncle a lot of pain when he couldn’t hold his head up straight, his shoulders and neck scrunched up and hunched forward all the time.

      It’s also very trying for family and caregivers, as the person regresses until they’re as helpless as an infant trapped in an adult body.

    • BeetleB 6 hours ago
      Having both is just plain terrible, although I suspect the latter dominated before the former really had an impact.

      And to think he was filming Picard just a few years ago.

  • softwaredoug 6 hours ago
    In the early 90s, I didn't get along with my Dad. I was a nerdy kid that didn't seem to fit in.

    Star Trek TNG + Captain Picard acted as a male role model, a different moral philosophy, and a celebration of nerdy people as competent and important in the world

  • Verdex 6 hours ago
    Patrick Stewart was the first actor that I noticed who always seemed to bring his A game. Even for productions where clearly everyone else was phoning it in. It was a good lesson to observe when I was young. Just because you find yourself in a dumb situation doesn't mean you can't do a good job.

    This was a person who from a relatively young age looked old, but more importantly behaved with a sort of dignity and thoughtfulness that projected way beyond his years. I'm not really sure how to assimilate the news because on the one hand obviously this was going to be happening sooner or later. He has always just felt old. But on the other, he's felt old for my whole life, so why shouldn't he just continue on that way without bound.

    • rbanffy 2 hours ago
      > Just because you find yourself in a dumb situation doesn't mean you can't do a good job.

      If you love what you do, you do it well because you’re doing it for yourself.

  • thesuitonym 6 hours ago
    If you haven't read his memoir you definitely should, it's a well written piece where he reflects on his life, what he did wrong, what he did right, and the joy and pain that followed him through it all. He was a flawed man, but he was a good man. He will be deeply missed.

    Edit: Oh man, I can't believe I'm crying at work over an actor.

    • kayodelycaon 6 hours ago
      I highly recommend the audio book, he reads it himself.
      • msabalau 4 hours ago
        The memoir is fascinating, the audiobook is enthralling.

        Of course, he could probably make reading the tax code sound pretty interesting.

      • aduwah 5 hours ago
        Thanks for the tip!
    • davesque 4 hours ago
      I did too! I don't think I've cried over a Hollywood death until now. Maybe Robin Williams but can't remember.
  • Sargos 6 hours ago
    As someone who grew up without a father, Patrick Stewart as Picard served as my father figure and shapes my personality and standards. it's hard to live up to those high bars of integrity, honor, and principles communication but I've found that just trying leads to positive outcomes. I owe a lot to this great man and will miss him dearly.
    • alittlebee 3 hours ago
      Thats a lovely anecdote, thank you for sharing it. Wishing you a good life.
  • ionwake 6 hours ago
    I went to a small theater production he was in with my gf. I hadnt realised all the seats would be taken and for some reason I was the only person standing with my girlfriend. We stood at teh back in the dark but I couldnt help but feel he was looking straight at me and my girlfriend for the duration of the play while he was onstage.

    It might of been Im not sure, not the case? But perhaps against a white wall it was clear we were the only ones standing for the performance and in turn it felt he was performing for us. It just felt like that.

    I ofcourse have no idea if he was just looking in our general direction but it weirdly felt like it and I thought it was kind.

    Ive never had such a "he was doing it for us" self centered view of any other performance Ive ever been to, but I always remembered this, and like to believe it was true.

    The play itself was about him being an old dying forgetful man. It was so convincing I somehow left thinking that surely he was but ofcourse it was just excellent acting.

  • genldd 7 hours ago
    Oh man, Patrick Stewart is a base rock part of my personality. Star Trek The Next Generation was formative for me ages 7-12. Sad to see him go.
  • radicalbyte 5 hours ago
    I'm surprised that we don't have the black banner. Sir Patrick Stewart played a formative part in the live of many of us in the industry.
    • frogcoder 4 minutes ago
      I get that the black banner is often for paying tribute to people who contribute significantly to science and technologies. But I feel he touched so many scientists and engineers that he deserve a black banner here. I am sad.
    • calf 5 hours ago
      Mods obviously Star Wars people
      • rbanffy 2 hours ago
        Star Wars is fine, but us Trekkies prefer science fiction.
  • arjie 6 hours ago
    He was technically my landlord in London, haha. Never met him, though. Only found out because the council sent me mail addressed to him regarding the property. From the visible window on the letter, I was able to find that it was to pay for extra sound insulation on the apartment I was residing in because the council was building some structure nearby.

    Really enjoyed his stuff. Always enjoyed that he could do both the grand and the silly with equal aplomb.

  • guybedo 7 minutes ago
    We're losing both Jean-Luc Picard and Dr Charles Xavier at the same time.

    Quite a sad day.

  • stmonty 6 hours ago
    I remember watching Star Trek: The Next Generation with my aunt and uncle as a kid. I was always more of a Star Wars fan, but they gave me a huge appreciation for Star Trek. My uncle still has a miniature replica of the USS Enterprise. Rest in peace and thanks for the fond memories.
  • shrubble 6 hours ago
    His eyes wet…

    (I looked up the original script, it’s “Kiazi’s children. Their faces wet.” But I’m gratified that you knew what I meant.)

    • notapenny 3 hours ago
      Just watched the ending of that because of your comment. Really hits.
  • m12k 5 hours ago
    I think “tea, Earl Grey, hot” also qualifies him as the first prompt engineer
  • _fw 6 hours ago
    The tribute that springs to mind best first is Pogo’s Data and Picard: a beautiful track made from Stewart performing as Picard.

    Now cheer up me lads, t’is better to have loved and lost, than never have loved at all.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZn6c4CeJCc [The one on Pogo’s channel doesn’t include clips of Stewart, just his voice. This is a reupload of the original]

    • SugarReflex 2 hours ago
      Great mention. That song has seriously cheered me up many times.
  • AJ007 6 hours ago
    Very sad to hear. I was just listening to the latest episode of Brent Spiner and Jonathan Frakes' podcast last night, Rick Berman was the guest. They shared some stories about Patrick Stewart.

    William Shatner was just on earlier this month, incredible he's still going strong at 95.

    • pimeys 6 hours ago
      This podcast is so good. I could listen to Spiner and Frakes talk about things for hours...
  • salsa_catsup 5 hours ago
    The TNG episode "The Inner Light" is profound. I didn't expect it in Star Trek.
    • mixmastamyk 9 minutes ago
      Richard Riehle, the friend in that episode passed on quite recently as well. Was also in Office Space and a fantastic satire about scope creep in projects for the military, of all things.
    • wolvoleo 4 hours ago
      Yes it's my favourite too. For some reason I had set the VCR when it first aired and I'm really happy I did.
    • danparsonson 4 hours ago
      A really beautiful episode and apparently one of his favourites. That moment at the end where he realises what's happening - "Oh, it's me! I'm the one it finds!" - so touching and such a wonderful performance.
    • nullc 5 hours ago
      I learned today that the son in that episode is Patrick Stewart's son.
  • toddmorey 6 hours ago
    Always exuded so much authority & confidence. What a legend.

    But he start losing his hair at 17 and really struggled with it. A turning point came when a friend (a Hungarian judo black belt) and his wife wrestled him down and physically cut off his toupée with scissors.

    His agent even had him do the Star Trek audition in a wig, but luckily the crew had better ideas.

  • Andrew_nenakhov 6 hours ago
    My favorite scene with Patrick Stewart is him leading the defence of the Atreides palace while being armed with an adorable puppy in Lynch's "Dune". RIP.
    • woodson 5 hours ago
    • colechristensen 5 hours ago
      There's a funny story in his memoir where he got cast as Gurney Halleck when Lynch saw Patrick in old man makeup in a theater production and had no idea who he was when he showed up for the part.
  • morphle 6 hours ago
    One of his most memorable performances (for his girlfriend?) or a pickup line? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFMrBldVk0s

    You might also have missed https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptfmAY6M6aA

    I met Patrick when we organized a Star Trek convention. He was even kinder and gentler in person than in his role as Picard.

  • pavel_lishin 6 hours ago
    I don't typically read non-fiction, but his autobiography ("Making It So", https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Making_It_So) was very, very good.

    One of the things I particularly liked is that he admits to the mistakes he made, and the times when he wasn't the human being he strived to be.

    • nosrepa 1 hour ago
      As said elsewhere in this thread, he narrates the audiobook himself, and I can wholly recommend it.
  • jjcm 5 hours ago
    The trial for Data's sentience will always be one of my favorite scenes in television. Such a showcase of his stage background, and a scene that's especially relevant today: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFNbTnFHruI
    • _doctor_love 5 hours ago
      That episode was the first one where they began to cross over into true greatness.
  • danso 7 hours ago
    It’s been awhile since I’ve watched something he’s been in but now learning that he’s gone, it feels similar to having a good childhood friend pass into the night
  • psadri 6 hours ago
    I was dreading this moment. RIP.

    I’ll be re-watching The Inner Light in his honor tonight.

    • anotherhue 6 hours ago
      • jandrese 5 hours ago
        Not to mention Walter Koenig.
        • rbanffy 2 hours ago
          So, it’s time to watch TNG and Babylon 5
    • paisawalla 6 hours ago
      À propos of nothing, my favorite Picard episodes:

      1. The Drumhead

      2. Tapestry

      3. The Inner Light

      4. Chain of Command

      5. Darmok

      I know a lot of people would put "Family" on that list, I just can't say I enjoy that one too much. I also like his dialogue in "Yesterday's Enterprise", but I wouldn't call it a Picard-focused one.

      • 1potato 4 hours ago
        Darmok was wildly creative, I thought. It's one of the only times I've ever felt just utterly amazed by the quality of the storytelling on a television show.
        • rbanffy 2 hours ago
          I watched Darmok with my youngest and they quickly realized they communicated through memes.
    • kakacik 6 hours ago
      What an episode. Are we in a variant of this? Sometimes I feel like humans would deserve it, sometimes there is some light
  • smurda 6 hours ago
    I have very few holiday traditions, but one is I listen to his one man show reading of a Christmas Carol. It's a great 1 hr and 45 min spent during the holidays: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000JCE3CU
    • kailden 5 hours ago
      Agree, so well done.
  • dustfinger 4 hours ago
    I know Patrick Stewart wasn't in STEM, but his influence in sci-fi is clearly highly regarded. I am sure there are people out there making a difference in STEM right now that were in some significant way inspired by Patrick Stewart. Any chance we could get a black banner up for him?
    • WrtCdEvrydy 4 hours ago
      Seconded, can someone ask /u/dang if this acceptable?
      • rsyring 1 hour ago
        Emailed with an ask
        • dustfinger 46 minutes ago
          Just noticed that you did this. Thank you! I sent one as well.
      • rbanffy 2 hours ago
        Previously he used to respond to messages with @dang.
        • rsyring 1 hour ago
          @ doesn't do anything on HN. You have to email if you want more than a chance they will see your comment.
          • dustfinger 48 minutes ago
            I just sent hn AT ycombinator DOT com an email requesting this. Even if it is just for a few hours before the end of the night, it would be meaningful.
  • hackertux 5 hours ago
    Patrick Stewart didn’t just play a captain. He helped make kindness, reason and curiosity look genuinely cool. Fly safe Sir Patrick.
  • card_zero 6 hours ago
    Walter Koenig (Pavel Chekov) died too, a few days ago.
    • calf 5 hours ago
      and Bester in Babylon 5, what a performance.
      • rbanffy 2 hours ago
        Bester was a much more fleshed out character than Chekov, which gave Koenig a lot more to work with.
    • kleiba2 5 hours ago
      What? I hadn't heard... :( What a sad week.

      This must have gone largely unnoticed... all but 35 comments here on HN spread out of 11 articles reporting on his passing. Sad.

  • billfor 1 hour ago
    Also Checkov died a few days ago: https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/tv/articles/star-trek-ac...

    Now it's just Sulu and Captain Kirk....

  • techteach00 6 hours ago
    It absolutely sucks to be a millennial (me) because literally everyone I love in music and culture came of age in the 70s-90s and they're all dying. Ozzy was awful for me. But over the next decade, it's only going to get worse.

    I was more of a Shatner movies Star Trek kid but I remember watching The Next Generation when it first came out and liked it. RIP to a legend.

    • rootusrootus 6 hours ago
      Huh, I would have said Star Trek TNG (and the movies, frankly) was more of a Gen X thing, if we have to pick generations. TNG started when I was 12.
      • jjkaczor 6 hours ago
        As a "Gen X" kid - basically sooo many channels had the original series on, that it was a constant background absorption.

        So - when TNG began airing, I would have been about 15 - right squarely in the perfect formative timeframe - it was "ours" more so than the original series ever was.

        • rootusrootus 4 hours ago
          > it was "ours" more so than the original series ever was

          100% agree. I watched all the originals too, and enjoyed them, but they absolutely felt like an earlier generation, building on a culture that did not match how I felt. As you say, TNG was all ours. <fist bump>

    • n42 6 hours ago
      I mean, I get it, but there's nothing unique to millennials about your role model generation dying off
      • Foobar8568 6 hours ago
        The 70s-90s was basically the boom of international stars, with a highly limited media ventures, so everyone with a TV would be aware of them, at least in the western world.

        From 2000s, culture has been more diluted across the medias.

        • hdgvhicv 3 hours ago
          1988 was about peak tv, And TNG writers had Data claim that television would not survive much beyond 2040. Amazing how prescient that turned out to be.
      • scottyah 6 hours ago
        Just that it is mostly uniquely millennials right now... Sure every generation gets their time, but their comment is about whose time it is now
      • techteach00 6 hours ago
        I happen to think Western music and culture peaked through those 3 decades though. I'm talking more film, TV and music not literature.

        So it's the passing of real talent without replacement. I think we live in a pretty dead culture now. Just my opinion of course.

        • kakacik 6 hours ago
          No its pretty bad and shallow, more money in the worse it is.

          But if you dont know any better I guess its fine

    • dualvariable 6 hours ago
      TIL that GenX never watched Star Trek or listened to Ozzy...
  • purple_ferret 6 hours ago
    Most people focus on his television/movie stuff but I always found his Shakespeare most endearing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwRj8B1dXfk

    He really was able to translate the literature to acting relevance for me (as a lit person)

    • isjcjsnckfj 6 hours ago
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      • Hugsbox 5 hours ago
        Or a really lovely way to bring up something Patrick Stewart was deeply passionate about.
      • purple_ferret 6 hours ago
        Wow yeah, Shakespeare...so weird and different lol
  • daoboy 6 hours ago
    I'm not usually invested in celebrity deaths, but this one is heartbreaking. TNG was a formative show in my life.

    He was a wonderful actor and by all accounts a wonderful person.

  • bigmattystyles 6 hours ago
    As campy as TNG can be, there are so many moral themes and dillemas and Stewart's Picard always grounded them with his dedication to his craft. RIP.
  • morphle 1 hour ago
    Early Enobarbus https://youtu.be/2hulHTH-3bc?t=60

    A wonderful human being with charisma https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWdUlFCESeY

  • bemtevi 3 hours ago
    Ah I have fond memories of The Next Generation. And Patrick Stewart introduced me to earl grey tea. I should have a cup tomorrow morning!
  • nuclearsugar 4 hours ago
    His portrayal of Picard helped me to understand what real maturity could look like. He will be greatly missed. Pour one out for Patrick.
  • bayindirh 6 hours ago
    They formed an invincible duo on stage with Ian McKellen.

    See: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/phwFI-n-big

  • darepublic 50 minutes ago
  • yurimo 47 minutes ago
    RIP to the legend. Thank you for making my childhood and making me believe in the possibility of the better future.
  • edb_123 4 hours ago
    I have so many fond childhood memories from TNG together with a persisting, strong feeling of hope for a bright version of the future. Something which gave me a spark of hope and optimism that brought me through the tough teen years and up and through adulthood. And which still to this day gives me a hope for a better future in our world even on days when things feel tough, and even though the current outlooks are dim.

    Thank you, Patrick. Rest in peace.

    PS. Something that's really sad (at least here in my Scandinavian country) is that it's currently completely impossible to stream TNG anywhere at all. No idea of the situation is the same elsewhere in Europe and the rest of the world. Thank goodness I found the complete DVD collection in a thrift store earlier this year. But the saddest thing of all is that the current generation of young people miss out on experiencing the feeling of hope that Jean-Luc Picard and the rest of the TNG crew gave us through their story. And miss out an important vision showing the possibility of a positive and bright version of the future, where humankind has grown into a mature and competent version of itself. Especially now in these dark and uncertain times.

    • solyin 4 hours ago
      There is absolutely some sort of Swedish mechanism that will allow you to watch TNG.
      • edb_123 2 hours ago
        Yes, but my point is that it's a pity that culturally important and formative series like TNG become buried and hard to find for the current generation of kids and young adults, who might not have discovered it yet. It kind of feels like an important cultural exchange might now become lost between the generations.

        All because of Paramount's unfortunate corporate choices (at least here in Europe).

  • natas 6 hours ago
    Patrick was and always will be one of the brightest stars.
  • makerofthings 5 hours ago
    Whenever I run into a moral or political or similar dilemma I always ask myself, if this was an episode of TNG, which side would be the baddies and who would Picard side with? Never steered me wrong. RIP Patrick Stewart.
  • fearless1ron 5 hours ago
    Many have said it already, and it's also true for me: Patrick Stewart as Jean-Luc Picard was my role model as a young teenager. The world is a little less bright without him.
  • dmayle 6 hours ago
    There are four lights, my friends
  • dwb 6 hours ago
    RIP to a legend. Picard is an obvious highlight, but I had the pleasure of seeing him on stage in Waiting for Godot too, which was delightful (well, maybe not the best word for the play, but you know).
  • thewileyone 1 hour ago
    Had the privilege of attending his one-man show of A Christmas Carol in 1992-93. Amazing actor who very obviously loved his craft and his audience.

    RIP Sir Patrick

  • robimoller 3 hours ago
    I often see my wife uncontrollably sad when she hears about the passing of someone she only (barely) knows from watching them on TV; Today she told me the news about the passing of Sir Patrick Stewart, and was immediately embarrassed for how I felt. I knew all along, but I'm super glad to know how cherished this show was for so many. My favorite episode was the 'Inner Light'.
  • geoffeg 6 hours ago
    This hits pretty hard. TNG and Picard's character was a huge part of my childhood.
  • hilariously 6 hours ago
    Don't ever stop boldly going wherever you are.
  • WalterBright 6 hours ago
    I recall recognizing him as a Roman soldier in "I, Claudius".
    • uolmir 6 hours ago
      I was scanning the comments for someone to mention this. I, Claudius is a great show and for the many people who mainly know Stewart from Star Trek, his character is a very fun contrast from Picard.
      • JKCalhoun 6 hours ago
        "I, Claudius" (1976) had a number of excellent actors in it—many of them no longer with us. Most (if not all) of the 12 parts are on YouTube and/or archive.org.

        (Highly recommended.)

    • jandrese 5 hours ago
      Or with his battle pug in Dune.
  • mikestew 5 hours ago
    One of my few brushes with fame was when I was in Nevada City, CA for a job interview some twenty years ago. Coming from Seattle, we got there a few days early. Came from the airport, parked and got some coffee, started walking around. Walking down the sidewalk, I see a middle-aged bald guy in a $COLLEGE sweatshirt talking to some folks. Sure enough it is Patrick Stewart, just hanging out. Apparently there was a film festival in town, and he was there to do $SOMETHING I've since forgotten.

    I didn't bother him, as much as we both wanted to (he looked busy), what struck me was how casual Sir Patrick Stewart was in his faded sweatshirt talking to some awestruck kid and his mom.

  • drannex 6 hours ago
    Oh. This is going to affect me more than or nearly as hard as George Carlin passing back in '08 did. This is a horrible year.
  • Eji1700 4 hours ago
    It's such a shame how few things in media have even attempted to carry the torch TNG lit. There's been enough written about how Trek itself wasn't, but I always hope something else takes up the mantle.

    Closest i've seen is The Orville which I found best described as McFarlen using his money to pay for his Larping (in a good way), but was pretty much just copy pasting.

    It was such a fascinating show and handled issues with a tact and nuance you're lucky to get today.

  • alittlebee 3 hours ago
    Gosh this is heartbreaking.

    I was fortunate enough to get to chat with him and some of the lead crew of ST:TNG while at a local convention. He was exactly how I imagined he would be in "real life", such a clever and well-spoken class act. RIP <3

    A little off topic, but are there any modern utopian/positive sci-fi shows still being released? I feel like ST:TNG was the last of its kind?

  • dada216 5 hours ago
    I grew up without a father. As it happens children choose father figures when that's the case. Capt. Jean-luc Picard was mine. I can't be the only one who did that, that's how powerful that character was.
  • nchmy 2 hours ago
  • alrtd82 49 minutes ago
    I wanted him to live forever, so sad
  • ivankelly 6 hours ago
    He’s finally seen everything
  • krylon 5 hours ago
    Star Trek TNG was a very big influence on my younger self, so this news hits rather hard. Rest in Peace, Sir Stewart, you will be fondly remembered by the many people whose lives you have touched.
  • ryeguy_24 2 hours ago
    Very sad. I will always remember my first exposure to Patrick Stewart - Comptons Interactive Encyclopedia. Such a fun time at the beginning of my computer adventures in the 90s.
  • R1D3R 1 hour ago
    This news has me so emotionally compromised that I actually signed up for Paramount Plus.
  • davesque 4 hours ago
    Man I've cried twice today over this. I guess I really thought of Patrick Stewart as almost like a respected family member in my mind. The state of leadership in the world today is pretty bad, so I guess I'll just have to continue rewatching TNG front to back every couple of years to have an example to live by.
  • qingcharles 6 hours ago
    Not only one of the nicest celebrities I've ever met, but one of the nicest people. His memory for people he met and minor details about them was fantastic. As absolutely as charming in real life as you could imagine.
  • davesque 4 hours ago
    Black stripe would be good for this one I think.
  • choult 6 hours ago
    Both myself and my wife were in floods of tears at the news. Walter Koenig's passing earlier this week was sad, but this is a whole other level.

    Sir Patrick, my captain, you will be sorely missed.

  • joshstrange 5 hours ago
    I'm finishing up my Voyager watch right now and was already considering TNG next, this seals the deal. TNG is such a cornerstone to my youth and growing up. Everyday after school I'd come home and watch TNG reruns (Tivo). Call it whatever you will but Star Trek and the ethos in it will always hold a very special place in my heart, I've always held it up as the model to aim for. He will be missed.
  • ale 6 hours ago
    Time to cue the Extras outtakes with Gervais. Stewart was effing funny
  • whycome 5 hours ago
    He had many lives. It's cool to note that he didn't take on the Picard role until he was 47.

    Never too late to do the other thing. Keep going.

  • theletterf 6 hours ago
    My first memory of his incredible voice is King Richard (and the narrator's voice) from Lands of Lore. He added something unique to every project he touched.
  • jamesgill 5 hours ago
    He's not really dead, as long as we remember him.
  • tomrod 1 hour ago
    I feel this is black-titlebar worthy. RIP, you inspiring man.
  • nntwozz 3 hours ago
    "When I was young, I remember watching my grandfather deteriorate from a powerful, intelligent figure to a frail wisp of a man, who could barely make his own way home."

    — Picard in TNG episode Night Terrors

  • jacobgold 5 hours ago
    Can't complain too much about 86 years but I'll miss him. I worry how it'll feel to watch him now.
  • zuInnp 5 hours ago
    He will always be "my" captain. The one I grew up with watching re-runs on television with my mother. Rest in peace.
  • ChrisMarshallNY 6 hours ago
    One of my favorite CDs, is Arnie Roth's The Compleat Four Seasons, narrated by Sir Patrick[0].

    Vivaldi's poetry ... left something to be desired (think Vogon), but Patrick Stewart made it noble.

    [0] https://open.spotify.com/album/024X8FW18wEjWTwiHjcSrR

    • hinkley 5 hours ago
      His voice work in Nausicaa was perhaps the first time I’d heard of him.
  • corvad 6 hours ago
    Seize the time… Live now! Make now always the most precious time. Now will never come again. - Jean-Luc Picard may he rest in peace.
  • lz400 2 hours ago
    I loved Star Trek when I was little and he was a big part of that. I loved him in Dune (the one from 1984, one of my favorite movies). He was also in Excalibur, another early obsession of mine. These are very early movies, he already had no hair, he looked pretty much the same way for 50 years. Of course he was great as professor Xavier too. Even the recent Picard series was decent even though he wasn't in his prime anymore.

    I grew up with this guy. I will always remember him, his work. I will always smile when he comes on screen. And I will always keep using his facepalm meme with a smirk. Thanks Patrick Stewart.

  • obahareth 5 hours ago
    He was so influential and his performances truly changed my life for the better. He will be sorely missed.
  • astral_drama 6 hours ago
    Thanks for entertaining us and bringing stories to life for all these years Patrick. May you boldly go where no man has gone before.
  • rbanffy 2 hours ago
    Since nobody mentioned it, let me introduce my friends here to a Christmas special.

    Google “Dear Satan”.

  • rcarmo 5 hours ago
    Damn. And me here typing "make it so" to AI agents instead of re-watching TNG.

    Let me go and fix that.

  • drumhead 6 hours ago
    Sir Patricks portrayal of Picard created one of the great characters in fiction. How many of us were influenced by his decency, values and morality, Picard will always be an all time classic. Very sad to hear of his death, a genuinely great actor and all round good person.
  • 2600 5 hours ago
    One to beam up.
  • gausswho 4 hours ago
    May I treat you to a timeless classic: https://picard.ytmnd.com/
    • rsyring 51 minutes ago
      Audio auto play alert
  • izolate 6 hours ago
    The post title alone elevated my cortisol levels. As a fan of TNG, I was dreading this one. RIP.
    • voy 6 hours ago
      I am with you, it was the same for me and still when it happened, it made me cry. And I don't cry for celebrities, ever.
  • onemoresoop 6 hours ago
    :( Rip Patrick Steward. I grew up watching TNG and Captain Picard has imprinted in my memory.
  • disparate_dan 5 hours ago
    So many dimensions to his class and talents. I've been lucky enough to see him twice, performing live on stage - as Macbeth, and in Ibsen's The Master Builder. Unforgettable.
  • bluegatty 5 hours ago
    Picard has become a moral example, I don't think anyone but Patrick Stewart could have been the embodiement of a character we could nary live up to.
  • aliasxneo 6 hours ago
    Still remember being a small kid running around the house as my dad had TNG playing on the TV. Patrick was pretty formative in the early years for me.

    I also really liked him in a Christmas Carrol (1999). I thought he played the role really well.

  • alexandre_m 5 hours ago
    Very talented actor.

    Extremely sad day for the geeks in us. Good bye professor X.

  • Veelox 4 hours ago
    I for one feel a black banner would be appropriate for his contributions to the soul of this place.
  • eska 6 hours ago
    I often referred to him as an example of a humble Gentleman. Rest in peace sir
  • zacman85 5 hours ago
    I genuinely wish Apple could figure out a way to respectfully license and preserve his voice to make it the defacto voice of Siri so that my kids would grow up in a world where the intelligent, compassionate voice of Patrick Stewart would be actively associated with seeking, reaching, and exploring knowledge. I know everything nowadays is painfully, annoyingly AI slopped, but I mean this as a long-standing way to preserve his legacy and celebrate what he meant to all of us. That's why it could only be a steward like Apple and not some random-co.ai.
    • Smilliam 5 hours ago
      I think that his storied career in media arts is already a great preservation of his legacy and impact. There doesn't need to be more than that; we can be satisfied with what we have.
    • amiga-workbench 3 hours ago
      I always wanted Majel Barrett's voice. Apparently she did record phonemes before she died, but that's not suitable to properly train a modern TTS system.

      The original incarnation of Android's voice assistant was codenamed after her.

  • taurath 5 hours ago
    Patrick was basically my dad - the characters he played were absolutely instrumental in developing my own values. What a sad day.
  • game_the0ry 6 hours ago
    Star Trek: First Contact is one of my favorite movies of all time. Probably on my top 5. That generation of Start Trek (pun intended) was so under rated.
  • sim04ful 6 hours ago
    His performance in TNG was so great it left such an impression on adult me. So much so I tend to end my AI agent approvals with "Make it so number 1"
  • scosman 6 hours ago
    O captain, my captain
    • drybjed 6 hours ago
      O Captain, My Captain!
  • MetaverseClub 3 hours ago
    I think he looks like DAVID PATTERSON, the Turing award winner.
  • drewbitt 2 hours ago
    What an incredible actor. He will be missed.
  • kuberwastaken 6 hours ago
    This is actually so sad, I watched Star Trek to get out of the covid blues in lockdown and was genuinely amazed how much of it held up, RIP.
  • MPSimmons 6 hours ago
    <3

    It was inevitable, though you always hope for an exception. I don't think I've ever seen any work of his I didn't deeply appreciate.

  • liuliu 6 hours ago
    I enjoyed the first two seasons of Star Trek: Picard. Always knew this might happen some day, but always wished it can keep going.
    • UltraSane 6 hours ago
      Really? I consider the second season of Star Trek: Picard to be one of the worst seasons of TV ever made.
      • liuliu 6 hours ago
        Might be the first then? I cannot remember. I disliked the last part of the story line, but not sure if that is the season 3 or season 2 + 3.
        • unethical_ban 6 hours ago
          Season 1 had a great premise with some missed expectations around the significance of some plot elements. Season 2 was exceedingly "meh", with an exception for the end of the last episode which made me tear up. Season 3 was pure memberberries, and if you accept that then it is fun.
          • nobody9999 3 hours ago
            >Season 1 had a great premise with some missed expectations around the significance of some plot elements. Season 2 was exceedingly "meh", with an exception for the end of the last episode which made me tear up. Season 3 was pure memberberries, and if you accept that then it is fun.

            Angela Collier did an extensive bit[0] on that. Although she left out several of the canon-breaking details in the series.

            That said, Patrick Stewart nailed it. Every. Single. Time. Despite the awful plotting/writing of Star Trek: Picard.

            [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdLHKdn0JTY

          • krapp 3 hours ago
            The show I wanted was an exploration of cybernetics and transhumanism and the <spoiler antagonist> as the Great Filter. Unfortunately that isn't what I got.

            Bringing Q back was dumb. Time travel is dumb. The Borg as a metaphor of trauma and addiction is brilliant, but like every other brilliant idea it had no follow through and didn't take chances.

            I didn't hate Picard as much as many other people who just wanted a Captain and a Ship and a Planet of the Week. I like it when franchises try to break out of their molds and explore new things. It just wound up being so disappointing in the end.

      • altairprime 6 hours ago
        Here is not the time and place. Find something nice or mean to say about Picard’s actor or don’t, but don’t be That Guy who picks a fight with someone’s eulogy over a difference of subjective opinion.
  • tumdum_ 6 hours ago
    So sad, TNG was very big part of my childhood.
  • hsuduebc2 6 hours ago
    "All good things must come to an end". Loved the Next Generation, loved Picard. RIP captain.

    I can still hear the voice: "Space: the final frontier. These are the voyages of the starship Enterprise. Its continuing mission: to explore strange new worlds, to seek out new life and new civilizations, to boldly go where no one has gone before."

  • boyander 6 hours ago
    Rest in peace, i've enjoyed so much his acting. He will always be attached to my childhood memories.
  • corvad 5 hours ago
    "And that is what it is to be human. To make yourself more than you are." - Jean-Luc Picard
  • zabriel_goss 4 hours ago
    Tremendous loss. A thespian's thespian, through and through.
  • Parka2574 6 hours ago
    Captain Jean Luc Picard was a father-like figure to me. Patrick Stewart will be missed.
  • V__ 6 hours ago
    I don't knwo why but I was sure he would live to be much older... He will be missed.
  • thisisthenewme 6 hours ago
    Damn, made me unexpectedly sad. RIP. Loved the philosophy and his acting in Star Trek.
  • alansaber 6 hours ago
    Wow, RIP. Had no idea he was sick.
  • danaris 5 hours ago
    "Someone once told me that time was a predator that stalked us all our lives. I’d rather believe that time is a companion who goes with us on the journey and allows us to cherish every moment...because they’ll never come again."

    ~ Capt. Jean-Luc Picard, Star Trek: Generations

  • narrator 6 hours ago
    My favorite episode of TNG was the one where Q shows him what his life would be like if he had just been a mild mannered scientist and not taken risks and never ended up in command. “Tapestry” — Star Trek: The Next Generation, Season 6, Episode 15, originally aired February 15, 1993.
  • cobbzilla 6 hours ago
    Make it NOT so

    RIP a legend

  • calf 6 hours ago
    Progressive neurological diseases suck. I would like to understand though since Stewart was filming up until this year? What was the time frame like, was it a more sudden onset or was he able to manage somewhat while continuing to film and work?
    • georgemcbay 6 hours ago
      > Progressive neurological diseases suck.

      Absolutely.

      > I would like to understand though since Stewart was filming up until this year? What was the time frame like, was it a more sudden onset or was he able to manage somewhat while continuing to film and work?

      AFAIK, his last role as a film actor was in Doomsday, which comes out in December 2026 but filmed late last year. The timeline does seem incredibly quick for a natural death from Alzheimer's disease and Lewy body dementia if he wasn't somehow secretly and very effectively hiding it for the past near-decade.

      I suspect (but obviously don't know) that he may have checked out on his own terms rather than literally dying due to the disease progression. I understand why people don't like to talk about it, especially given legal issues faced by anyone who may have assisted in many jurisdictions.

      In California it can be legal to assist but technically only if a doctor decides you will live less than 6 months, which IMO is an awfully narrow requirement. I wish people could be more open about it (and that the laws weren't so stupid).

      In any case, shocking and sad news. I never would have guessed we'd lose Patrick Stewart before William Shatner. 86 isn't exactly young or anything, but he seemed to still be incredibly vibrant in very recent productions.

  • throwitaway222 4 hours ago
    Not unexpected but still hit hard.
  • stetrain 6 hours ago
    I have been meaning to start a rewatch of TNG, I guess now is the time.
  • t1234s 5 hours ago
    I enjoyed his character in the Showtime series Blunt Talk
  • petervandijck 6 hours ago
    I remember his Covid time videos in prospect park those made me happy
  • rbanffy 3 hours ago
    I believe he has earned the black bar. He and the characters he brought to life have been role models to many among us.
  • karmicthreat 5 hours ago
    I will always remember him for his role in gun men
  • bitwize 1 hour ago
    Lewy Body Dementia? I suppose Captain Picard will be sharing drinks and swapping stories with a certain Orkan in that celestial watering hole, Seven Forward.

    Stewart was rather like Alan Rickman's Galaxy Quest character in real life: when he first joined the TNG cast he was rather arrogant and thought he was demeaning himself, a Shakespearean actor slumming it as a spaceman on terrestrial American television. As a consequence, the rest of the season one cast started pranking him pretty hard on set. In a textbook example of what the British mean when they say they're "taking the piss out of someone", Stewart was humbled and developed a good sense of humor about it all, and would go on to embrace Star Trek and the Picard role, and not take himself so seriously in general. Which to me, is worthy of the absolute highest respect for a performer. He brought the same professionalism and enthusiasm to Picard, Charles Xavier, and Yaotl from TMNT (2007) that he did to any of his Shakespearean roles.

  • andromaton 5 hours ago
    proud we collectively deem this site-relevant
  • pseudosavant 4 hours ago
    RIP to one of the truly great ones
  • Grimeton 5 hours ago
    #!/usr/bin/env bash

    echo $'\U1F596'

  • blueSky1989 4 hours ago
    I never met him. I'm crying.
  • catalinjrj 5 hours ago
    He will be missed. Rest in peace, Captain.
  • system2 2 hours ago
    I am going to watch TNG once again for him starting now. I am sad.
  • freecodeio 6 hours ago
    the man who got me into star trek which then got me into computers which got me where I am today, that's extremely sad
  • __xor_eax_eax 7 hours ago
    Lost a great one.
  • puppycodes 4 hours ago
    He was a gift to the world.
  • glennfiedler 4 hours ago
    He saw everything
  • glouwbug 5 hours ago
    Was great in Oblivion. RIP
    • ColinWright 4 hours ago
      He was in Oblivion? The film with Tom Cruise?

      I've found no evidence of this ... can you confirm?

      • amiga-workbench 3 hours ago
        The Elder Scrolls - Oblivion, he voiced Uriel Septim.
        • glouwbug 3 hours ago
          A great combo that was with Ned Stark too
  • motohagiography 6 hours ago
    He played one of the most exemplary men of the last century, and brought life to an ideal of what humanity could aspire to be. The fiction was a vehicle, and through it he represented our best.

    I didn't know anything about him other than his work, which is perhaps as fine an epitaph as any man could have.

  • ExMachina73 6 hours ago
    Pour one out for Leondegrance.
  • gspr 6 hours ago
    There dies part of my childhood. RIP, you gave the world so much!
  • orionblastar 6 hours ago
    RIP Patrick Stewart, he will always be Picard and Xavier to me.
  • ktallett 6 hours ago
    That's terribly sad news. From his brilliant performances in TNG to his hilarious performance in Extras he was such an amazing actor who brought kindness and warmth to me whenever I watched him in anything. He introduced me to the magic of Shakespeare and also to the magic of being authentic and kind no matter how successful you are. A real British legend!
  • ashton314 6 hours ago
    I commend you to the stars
  • xvxvx 5 hours ago
    ‘Damage report!’
  • parenthesis 6 hours ago
    He is The Picard.
  • j45 4 hours ago
    RIP
  • shevy-java 4 hours ago
    I used to watch Star Trek TNG back in the 1990s. Patrick was great as Captain Picard.

    I did notice that in the latest Wolverine he seemed to be doing not so well with his physical status, looking quite frail and his voice was also no longer strong as it used to be (that was in Logan 2017, so already 10 years ago). Dementia is kind of eating away at the neurons.

  • teddyh 6 hours ago
    Plays a melancholy melody on a flute
  • digitalsushi 6 hours ago
    a thing isn't beautiful because it lasts
    • card_zero 5 hours ago
      There are also many other irrelevant parameters. A thing isn't beautiful because it's pressurized, biodegradable, scheduled, dusty, reversed, volatile, modular, or rubber. However, beautiful things should last, because that would be better.

      Wait, was that a Picard quote, in fact? It has the right tone. (Nope, looks like it's from Age of Ultron.)

  • tkdb 5 hours ago
    THERE. ARE. FOUR. LIGHTS.

    I'll never forget this line, and what it means. I think of it often.

  • r0b05 6 hours ago
    RIP Professor X
  • throwaway29303 6 hours ago
    Godspeed. ;~;7
  • moebrowne 6 hours ago
    Make it not so
  • selimthegrim 5 hours ago
    I remember him as Gurney Halleck and his brief non-speaking turn as Karla in Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy
  • obi_khan 3 hours ago
    i sense a great disturbance in the force...
  • teekert 6 hours ago
    Profound shock.

    I often think of Picard looking down at us, through a force field in the Enterprise D, sees our wars, our inequalities and slowly shakes his head: "Savages". In his role as Picard he was a bit of a teacher to me.

  • platevoltage 5 hours ago
    Just as I'm in the middle of watching Picard Season 1.
  • soulofmischief 5 hours ago
    What can you not say about a man like this. Beloved by all and someone to look up to on and off the screen. Many of us grew up learning from and laughing with Sir Patrick Stewart and his characters. He was an actor's actor, committed to his roles.

    No being is so important that he can usurp the rights of another, but yesterday we lost someone very important.

  • semperos 5 hours ago
    Engage.
  • elpocko 5 hours ago
    But it was too late. I've seen everything.
  • michaelsbradley 5 hours ago
    In our hearts, you will always live long and prosper, Captain.

    Watching Star Trek TNG episodes when they first aired in the late 80s had a powerful effect on my imagination as a child. It would not, and could not, have been the same show without Patrick Stewart. RIP.

  • louwrentius 6 hours ago
    I have (re)watched Star Trek TNG more times than I can remember. I got a shock when I saw the title of this post.
  • teaearlgraycold 6 hours ago
    One of the celebrity deaths I actually care about. Rest in peace.
  • MrBuddyCasino 6 hours ago
    In Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy (1979), Patrick Stewart has a short appearance near the very end as soviet KGB mastermind Karla.

    Never have I seen such presence and charisma squeezed into so short a scene.

  • nurettin 6 hours ago
    Honorable mention: thanks to red letter media for keeping the memory alive. And for being dorky and entertaining.
  • prossercj 6 hours ago
    Am I the only one who regularly tells Claude to "make it so"?

    RIP

  • browningstreet 6 hours ago
    RIP.
  • pavlov 6 hours ago
    I would watch some TNG tonight in his honor… but since the Ellisons bought Paramount, it’s not available on streaming in my country anymore. (Billionaires really will spoil everything.)

    Instead I’ll go find my old DVD box set of “I, Claudius” where he had a memorable role too.

  • testing22321 6 hours ago
    Damn. Doomsday may be his last appearance. I wonder if they filmed anything for secret wars.

    Wow, what a loss. So many iconic characters, so much inspirational

  • groestl 6 hours ago
    :(
  • pluc 6 hours ago
    Paywall for an obituary is something else
  • jh00ker 6 hours ago
    *Sir Patrick Stewart
  • samgranieri 5 hours ago
    I grew up watching this show. I watched it with my dad. I'm bereft right now.
  • alienbaby 4 hours ago
    o7
  • stuartd 6 hours ago
    make it not so
  • gigatexal 5 hours ago
    noooooooooo sad day

    more of us men should be like him and who he was and what he stood for

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  • potato66 5 hours ago
    Gasp
  • minraws 6 hours ago
    sigh.. damn I just started star trek.
    • nurettin 6 hours ago
      I rewatched tng 4 times and I was skeptical of strange new worlds but I just watched s2e3 and mind = blown. I couldn't believe that was an episode from a series. Recommended.
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    [stub for offtopicness]
    • samgranieri 5 hours ago
      I think Sir Patrick should be honored with a black bar on HN
    • nixgeek 6 hours ago
      Black bar event for HN.

      Rest in peace, Picard.

    • ChrisArchitect 6 hours ago
      https://twitter.com/sirpatstew/status/2115891266131300517

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      We announce with great sorrow the passing of Sir Patrick Stewart yesterday at his home in Los Angeles, in the loving care of his beloved wife Sunny, following a brief and poignant journey with Alzheimer's Disease and Lewy Body Dementia. He has been held in the warm embrace of family and friends, surrounded by live music, prayer, tears, laughter, and the kind of profound emotion that only he could inspire after a lifetime of devotion to us all. We will forever cherish the peaceful ease and reflection on his face, an enduring reminder of his invincible grace.

      A son of Mirfield in the West Riding of Yorkshire, he travelled from the Royal Shakespeare Company to an equally acclaimed career spanning six decades on Broadway, the silver screen and television.

      His sonorous voice and singular talent will forever be synonymous with indelible performances in every genre. He explored the human condition in all its poetic complexity and brought hope not only to the far reaches of the Marvel Cinematic Universe, but into science fiction's most iconic final frontier aboard the Starship Enterprise.

      His professional accomplishments were humbly matched by his philanthropy and activism on behalf of human rights, survivors of domestic violence, global refugees, veterans' mental health services, and animal welfare, particularly his cherished foster pitties. He was a Knight, Chancellor, motor sport enthusiast, and lifelong Huddersfield Football fan. He will be remembered for the dignity, compassion and humanity he brought to every role - in his art and life.

      "Like me, Jean-Luc has lived an unusual life that has taken him far beyond the bounds of normal human experience. But he is also someone who has remained true to his earthbound roots, for they are what gave him his identity. In the end, he feels the call of home, as do I." - Patrick Stewart, Making It So: A Memoir

      In lieu of flowers, memorial contributions may be made to:

      Johns Hopkins Alzheimer’s Disease Research Center Fund https://alzresearch.org/giving/

      Alzheimer’s Foundation of America Caregiver Resources https://alzfdn.org/donate/

    • ChrisArchitect 7 hours ago
    • xsmasher 5 hours ago
      Black bar please?
    • schappim 6 hours ago
      I'm sorry but this needs a black bar.
    • xyst 6 hours ago
      No black bar for PS? Wild.
    • maxcan 7 hours ago
      What are the standards for a black stripe on HN?

      He wasn't an engineer or scientist but I'd wager a majority of the readership of HN, at least those over 35 or so, grew up inspired by Capt. Jean-Luc Picard.

      • tomhow 6 hours ago
        The convention over the two decades of HN has been to reserve the black bar for eminent contributors to computer science and technology entrepreneurship. That's not at all to diminish the merit of people from other fields. Debates about the black bar are unseemly, so let's leave it here please.
  • seggesgesg 6 hours ago
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    • officeplant 6 hours ago
      No we all have a deep appreciation for Shakespearean actors.
    • etc-hosts 5 hours ago
      Boooo
    • georgemcbay 6 hours ago
      > i love how this is top news here because of what, star trek?

      Yes, mostly.

      Star Trek (particularly, but not only, TNG) was seminal sci-fi entertainment in the childhood, teen or young adult eras for many now-40+ nerds who went on to work in tech.

      Patrick Stewart has done a lot of other great work as well, and should be remembered for that, but his role as Picard in Star Trek: TNG makes him highly relevant to this site.

      • benjiro29 3 hours ago
        > young adult eras for many now-40+ nerds who went on to work in tech

        There is just something about character driven shows, where you have the time to grow with 24~26 episodes per season. What gave us so many good episodes to develop characters that did not feel rushed.

        We old geezers have found memories of TNG, DS9, Voyager (and so many other good series like SG, Farscape, Babylon 5, etc).

        But i hardly see the same cultural impact from the new ST series and sci-fi shows. Battlestar Galactical maybe but that is already a 20 year old show also. The expanse is the only new thing ...

        Beyond that just recycled 9 to 13 episode shows trying to use the old ST, StarWars names and milk it dry. With tons of memberberies to the point of insanity.

        What is left for the teen or young adults these days? What will be their Scifi shows in 20 a 30 years from now to remember.

        Actors like Patrick Stewart are those who came to the TV screen (or movies) often with a strong theatric background, and it allowed them to put forwards strong characters. But its easy to tell we are not getting this type of actors anymore.

        Man, i an talking like a old guy. lol

      • jendndndnd 6 hours ago
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    • Markoff 5 hours ago
      nerds gonna nerd
    • jekdkdkd 6 hours ago
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  • syngrog66 2 hours ago
    should not be on HN
    • keithnz 36 minutes ago
      since you are new here, maybe get familiar with the guidelines :-

      What to Submit

      On-Topic: Anything that good hackers would find interesting. That includes more than hacking and startups. If you had to reduce it to a sentence, the answer might be: anything that gratifies one's intellectual curiosity.

  • dspillett 6 hours ago
    Same as I said about Walter:

    Nah, it's SciFi. They'll find a way of writing them back in. Won't they?