3 comments

  • treebeard901 1 minute ago
    It does have the blue angels flying over the city at one point
  • thrance 36 minutes ago
    Line at the end of the in-game "rulebook":

    > Every rule, vote count and case in this game is drawn from the public record. Sources are in docs/research/ in the project folder. Neighborhood politics scores and the economics are simplified for play.

    Nice, I'm happy to hear that, Claude. This kind of silly game is supposed to help you understand a complex issue in a fun way. But this is missing the plot entirely. Why is this so overwhelmingly complex? Why would I spend time learning this ugly, convoluted and verbose UI? Who is this for??

    EDIT: I'll link to an example of what I think this game should have been: https://research.wmz.ninja/projects/phd/index.html

    A game made with intent, that is easy to pick up, respects its player's time, and makes its point effectively.

    • rjh29 29 minutes ago
      > Who is this for??

      Like most vibe coded projects, it is for the person who created it. And usually only them.

    • howunfortunate 15 minutes ago
      It's a throwaway joke about NIMBYism, not a triple-A blockbuster production.
      • thrance 13 minutes ago
        You've completely missed what my comment was trying to convey. If it's throwaway, why is it so damn complex to play? I've seen AAA games with less features.
    • karl11 29 minutes ago
      I think that may be exactly the point.
      • thrance 25 minutes ago
        No, I do not think fighting the UI is part of the point this game is trying to make. I'll give a good example of what such a game should be: https://research.wmz.ninja/projects/phd/index.html

        There's no reason a "housing crisis" game couldn't have been done like that, with simple choices and immediate reactions. A game that respects the player's time, is easy to pick up and makes the point effectively.

  • hyperhello 23 minutes ago
    You know, if an old city with a natural boundary doesn’t think you should build a bunch of profitable crap in it, maybe you could take the hint and stop acting like you’re bringing Jesus to them. San Francisco’s seen the conquistadors. In fact, many of the streets in the Sunset are named after them.
    • JumpCrisscross 4 minutes ago
      > maybe you could take the hint

      Locked supply. Affordable housing. Growing standards of living (or population). Pick two.

      If you lock supply and want taxes and wages to grow, you're choosing unaffordable housing. That's San Francisco's current policy choice. Over decades, it filters the poor to San Francisco's "outer boroughs" or onto its streets.

      For what it's worth, my friends who lived in San Francisco "took the hint" and moved out when they chose to have kids. They didn't sell their place, however, since the above policy mix together with California's property-tax system strongly disincentivizes that.

    • howunfortunate 17 minutes ago
    • bobthepanda 17 minutes ago
      I mean, stopping housing construction hasn’t stopped the new money from pushing out the old soul. Given the US enshrines the free movement of people in the Constitution, it’s make room or have someone outbid you for yours.
    • Bratmon 20 minutes ago
      Yeah, how DARE people under 40 want somewhere to live!